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Offline wormraper

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New CSA VZ 58
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:25:03 PM »
Just got a VZ 58 in 7.62x39 for the first time (only played with my buddy's VZ2008 back in the day) and am on the search for mags. I've hear that the aluminum mags are the best to get, but to try and search for NOS mags as the aluminum mags had issues with feedlips and cracks (they were kind of disposable like the early M16 mags). And I've heard that the new CSA polycarbonate mags are good, but I can't find them ANYWHERE.

any good locations for NOS mags and/or the new CSA ones for a decent price? The gun only comes with 2 mags from Atlantic and I'm a mag whore so I intend to get at least 30 mags for the gun
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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 05:03:00 PM »
The poly mags are good reliable range mags but they dont hold up to drops very well, I've got some beat up aluminum mags and they are still going strong.  If given the choice I will buy good or used condition aluminum mags ove NIB plastic ones for the 58.  Keep an eye out they pop up over on the files every now and again.

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 05:14:29 PM »
Check Numrich, they just had a Memorial Day Sale with NOS mags on sale.

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 05:34:37 PM »
The poly mags are good reliable range mags but they dont hold up to drops very well, I've got some beat up aluminum mags and they are still going strong.  If given the choice I will buy good or used condition aluminum mags ove NIB plastic ones for the 58.  Keep an eye out they pop up over on the files every now and again.

yeah, I was watching Rob's videos and saw that. just trying to figure out WHERE to find them, cuz I can't find them ANYWHERE

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 05:36:18 PM »
Check Numrich, they just had a Memorial Day Sale with NOS mags on sale.

yeah, I actually came across that by googling about half an hour ago. $19.95 for NOS... my only problem is that Numrich isn't open for business thanks to that f-tard Cuomo (yay for being in New York Numrich), and I was hoping to have them for next week when I get my gun in lol.

so $19.95 is a good price for VZ58 NOS mags though? I'm a newbie to the VZ 58 so have no idea what prices are good or not

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2020, 08:36:25 PM »
Check Numrich, they just had a Memorial Day Sale with NOS mags on sale.

yeah, I actually came across that by googling about half an hour ago. $19.95 for NOS... my only problem is that Numrich isn't open for business thanks to that f-tard Cuomo (yay for being in New York Numrich), and I was hoping to have them for next week when I get my gun in lol.

so $19.95 is a good price for VZ58 NOS mags though? I'm a newbie to the VZ 58 so have no idea what prices are good or not

$20 is a very good price for unissued vz58 mags. Unfortunately, Big Fredo has Wuhan foo-ed Numrich for the time being. A quick search reveals that some place called DK Firearms has nos mags on sale for $25 each, which ain’t bad. Most places sell them for $30 - $40 each.
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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 08:44:48 PM »
All my mags I bought in used/good/very good for </= $15 each.  20-25 I would consider decent for NOS unissued

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 10:27:10 PM »
All of the used aluminum mags I’ve purchased have been off of Gunbroker from a seller named “Jestice Arms”. Good prices and fast shipping, and zero issues out of any of them.

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2020, 04:08:28 AM »
VZ58 mags WERE NOT made to be disposable like the early AR15 mags.  Aluminum is at least 2-3x the thickness/gauge of AR mags.

So long as they don't have dents that impede follower and realize you might have to replace mag springs (and you clean them before you use them like any surplus mag), surplus mags are generally GTG regardless op physical wear.

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2020, 10:07:13 AM »
Was just going by what Ive been told on the files and akforum.net. They just warned me to stack up on good mags because they have a tendency of cracking along the spine, feedlips and locking lug area regularly and should be considered disposable and that you'll be dumping quite a few that get damaged
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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2020, 11:29:33 AM »
Mags are always a consumable item, but I have mags that are pretty rough shape that have been loaded for several years now and only 1 that Ive seen has had cracked feed lip by spine, and it was that way when I got it.  It still works well.  Ive got another that has the tab on the bottom plat torn off where it covers the spine, works well too.  I only have 1 mag that doesn't work right and it got hit hard enough to move material on the side where it inserts into the mag well and takes significant force to get it in.  Occasionally it has a fail to feed issue but still useable at the range

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2020, 12:12:03 PM »
oh i know all mags are disposable. I was just saying that I was told that they are inherently weak and disposable. The exact wording from several of them was "VZ-58 mags are rather flimsy and weak. they crack around the locking lugs, spine and feeds lips quite often. They're not meant to be used and abused, but used a few times and then thrown away. They're designed to be disposable like the original AR-15 mags".

so as I said I was trying to get a stack of mags so I didn't have to worry about not having enough when I wore these out"

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2020, 12:39:44 PM »
Lol they were talking about themselves, probably thought they were on the "emotional support for soggy french fries" forum  ;D

Was this over on the files?

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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2020, 12:40:48 PM »


Was this over on the files?

yup

and if it's true that VZ58 metal mags actually ARE long lasting, I won't have to buy AS much initially (although I know I'll end up with 30 or 40... I'm a mag whore, which is why I have nearly 250 AK mags and continue to look at deals going "ooohhh, I could use some more")

(well, Numrich JUST announced this morning that they're good to go, so I picked up a 10 pack of the NOS mags)
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Re: New CSA VZ 58
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2020, 09:19:15 PM »
Looks like the smoke polymer 7.62x39 mags are back in stock at Czechpoint. Also, FAB Defense makes some polymer mags for the Vz58. Don’t know how good they are, though. Web search indicates they have some failures with vz2000s, but that doesn’t mean much.