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Offline Mercs

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CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« on: October 17, 2020, 12:12:32 PM »
Military Arms Channel released this video today. Results are best summed up with a quote from video: “both Jason and I were surprised at how poorly it did in the gauntlet”

In the comments many are saying that he didn’t use the safety switch properly and should redo the test


https://youtu.be/_qDrDui7QYg

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 12:19:37 PM »
Just watched it half hour ago, it totally failed the test.
I was really surprised as well how bad it did.


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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 12:38:21 PM »
Personally, I think the MAC tests are kind of silly.

The Scorpion made it through the 'Elements' test just fine (already a pretty good example of its durability, imo), then made it through the water part of the 'Gauntlet' just fine. Had a jam on the sand, and then was able to fire again once it was cleared and cycled correctly. I wouldn't exactly describe that as "it did really poorly."

As for the rest, I got bored. I don't plan on ever burying my Scorpion in dirt. But especially not after already having subjected it to the rest of the above without at least a minimal cleaning.

I still have no reservations about the durability of my Scorpion, under realistic conditions, whatsoever.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2020, 12:51:19 PM »
Personally, I think the MAC tests are kind of silly.

The Scorpion made it through the 'Elements' test just fine (already a pretty good example of its durability, imo), then made it through the water part of the 'Gauntlet' just fine. Had a jam on the sand, and then was able to fire again once it was cleared and cycled correctly. I wouldn't exactly describe that as "it did really poorly."

As for the rest, I got bored. I don't plan on ever burying my Scorpion in dirt. But especially not after already having subjected it to the rest of the above without at least a minimal cleaning.

I still have no reservations about the durability of my Scorpion, under realistic conditions, whatsoever.

I agree with all.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 01:18:49 PM »
Personally, I think the MAC tests are kind of silly.

The Scorpion made it through the 'Elements' test just fine (already a pretty good example of its durability, imo), then made it through the water part of the 'Gauntlet' just fine. Had a jam on the sand, and then was able to fire again once it was cleared and cycled correctly. I wouldn't exactly describe that as "it did really poorly."

As for the rest, I got bored. I don't plan on ever burying my Scorpion in dirt. But especially not after already having subjected it to the rest of the above without at least a minimal cleaning.

I still have no reservations about the durability of my Scorpion, under realistic conditions, whatsoever.

If a bug out situation ever happened where a person might have to be in conditions like that. My S2 would be at the bottom of the list of my gun choice to take.

I'd for sure want my AK and Glock.

Only reason I bought a Scorpion was for something cool to short barrel, plus they look CooL. Fun to plink with too, but if you think about it, it's pretty useless in most defense situations. Way too heavy and big to carry around, and has more recoil than my Sig P365.

If I want something small to hose a bunch of 9mm with a Glock 26 or 19 with a 32 round mag would be a better option.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 01:30:37 PM »
If a bug out situation ever happened where a person might have to be in conditions like that...

Sure.  ;)

"Bug out" situations aside. the Scorpion EVO has been in use for years, by a variety of agencies and special tactics units around the world. That, to me, represents realistic conditions for the reliability of the intended use of the firearm.

Regardless, I know some people think Tim's test are really informative. Please carry on.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2020, 12:59:42 AM »
If a bug out situation ever happened where a person might have to be in conditions like that...

Sure.  ;)

"Bug out" situations aside. the Scorpion EVO has been in use for years, by a variety of agencies and special tactics units around the world. That, to me, represents realistic conditions for the reliability of the intended use of the firearm.

Regardless, I know some people think Tim's test are really informative. Please carry on.

I honestly had no idea the Scorpion was ever used by any military or law enforcement agencies.

Would love to have the A1 model.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2020, 07:06:00 AM »
As much as I love my Scorpion however it's NOT an HK MP5 or UZI.  Nor has it been battle tested in wars for decades despite being fielded by many. I really don't consider it a primary SHTF or single bug out weapon and would use AKM or AR first.  However Mac's "MEH" potting soil test does not sway me either way.  Again I love my Scorpion for what it is and intend to keep it in my stable. 
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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2020, 09:24:56 AM »
I honestly had no idea the Scorpion was ever used by any military or law enforcement agencies.

Would love to have the A1 model.

Thanks for the info.

You bet. It is pretty impressive to see everywhere it's been in use.


As much as I love my Scorpion however it's NOT an HK MP5 or UZI.  Nor has it been battle tested in wars for decades despite being fielded by many. I really don't consider it a primary SHTF or single bug out weapon...

Neither do I. But that does nothing to lessen its primary role for me, which is a HD/truck gun/covert "bag" gun that I can conceal much more easily than a full-size AR. And for that, I have full confidence in it. I'd also say that that's much more akin to the intended use of the gun, than a "SHTF, bury it in the mud and it will keep shooting," option.

It's also interesting to note that one of the most "battle tested" handguns of the 20th century - the Colt 1911, failed the "Gauntlet" miserably. Much more so than the Scorpion Evo. And the 1911's replacement, the Beretta 92, didn't even pass MAC's basic reliability test.

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2020, 11:00:32 AM »
I’m not throwing mine into the mud or potting soil just to test it - just like I haven’t thrown any of my handguns down on the ground to see if they pass the Sig test either....

But I do thank the youtubers for giving us something to watch and talk about!

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Re: CZ-USA Scorpion meets the GAUNTLET!
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2020, 01:13:16 PM »

But I do thank the youtubers for giving us something to watch and talk about!

Definitely. And I think that's an important thing to keep in mind when viewing - everyone with a social media account is trying to find their niche on the platform and whatever generates the most 'clicks' for them (because at the end of the day, that's what it's all about). For MAC, it's these kind of tests, and I have no doubt they gets lots of traffic as a result. The "watchability" factor is high, if nothing else.