Kadet 2 on p01 omega failure to fire

[DenStinett]

It appears to me that the hammer pivot pin is working its way out of the hammer. It should be considerably further to the right and more importantly there should be a keeper pin that holds the hammer pin in. That pin is held in by the sear cage and can almost vertically oriented.


Joe

   The same thing crossed my mind. The 75 Omega seems to be different in the way that the Hammer Pin is retained. I am not sure how it is done in the 75 Omega model, but it dose not look like it has a (#19) Hammer Pin Retaining Pin like the CZ 75 variant classic trigger system.

From the looks of it, the radius of the Disconnector (#17) holds the Hammer Pin (#18, which is reversed in the drawing) in place
And the Ejector holds the Sear Pin

[Milanski]

Guess my question is, how does your Hammer fit on the P01 Slide ?
Is it just me, or does the KADET Slide Frame looked tweaked to the left a bit compared to the bolt ?
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Is also a bit to the right but it clears all on the original 9mm slide

[DenStinett]

If you decide to File anything, file the spot on your KADET then
But, it still looks to me like the KADET Frame is tweaked a bit to the left

[75Plus]

Let face it guys (and gals) as much as we love our CZ’s the quality control on the very expensive Kadet adapter sucks!!

Joe

[DenStinett]

Now JOE ! ! !
but you're right

[Milanski]

Thank you all for suggestions. I've looked at it all and it looks like I'll have to mail it cz to look at it. Already spoke to their customer service and they are sending me a shipping label. I'll update as soon as I get it back.

[PeteB]

I am wondering if this was solved by sending the kit back to the factory? 

My experience is similar:

Failure to fire so far about 1~2 times out of every 20 rounds. I say out of 20, because I load two magazines at a time, pause to reload, repeat.

- Hammer clicks, no ignition.
- Looks like it is not out of battery, tapping bolt from the back does not help.
- Cocking hammer again for a restrike makes no difference.
- Round ejects fine when slide is cycled.
- Rim inspection, no dent, looks like firing pin never made contact.

The adapter is fairly clean, the firing pin has not been touched.  The gun gets cleaned after each trip to the range. I try to pay special attention to the chamber (because 22lr!) 200~300 rounds fired, cleaned 3 times.

I inserted just the bolt into the rails, looks like it is moving fine, not riding the stop pin or making contact with anything else it is not supposed to. 

If you insert the magazine, you can also see the interaction between  the magazine follower, the tab on the stop pin, spring etc, but that is another thread... 

[Crosstrains]

I am wondering if this was solved by sending the kit back to the factory? 

My experience is similar:

Failure to fire so far about 1~2 times out of every 20 rounds. I say out of 20, because I load two magazines at a time, pause to reload, repeat.

- Hammer clicks, no ignition.
- Looks like it is not out of battery, tapping bolt from the back does not help.
- Cocking hammer again for a restrike makes no difference.
- Round ejects fine when slide is cycled.
- Rim inspection, no dent, looks like firing pin never made contact.

The adapter is fairly clean, the firing pin has not been touched.  The gun gets cleaned after each trip to the range. I try to pay special attention to the chamber (because 22lr!) 200~300 rounds fired, cleaned 3 times.

I inserted just the bolt into the rails, looks like it is moving fine, not riding the stop pin or making contact with anything else it is not supposed to. 

If you insert the magazine, you can also see the interaction between  the magazine follower, the tab on the stop pin, spring etc, but that is another thread... 

I can't figure out how to respond to a message (says I do not have access) so I'm answering a question about the Kadet 22lr polymer mags I use for my P-01.  Mine are marked CZ 75 SP-01*CZ Shadow 2.  They stick out of the grip of the P-01 but I found the X-Grip adapter for the Beretta 92C magazines works great to fill the contour on the front of the grip (nearly flush on the back).  They have worked flawlessly for me.  Easy to load with the tabs and easy to empty through the P-01.  And these days, a lot cheaper than the 9mm. 

[DenStinett]

I can't figure out how to respond to a message (says I do not have access) so I'm answering a question about the Kadet 22lr polymer mags I use for my P-01.  Mine are marked CZ 75 SP-01*CZ Shadow 2.  They stick out of the grip of the P-01 but I found the X-Grip adapter for the Beretta 92C magazines works great to fill the contour on the front of the grip (nearly flush on the back).  They have worked flawlessly for me.  Easy to load with the tabs and easy to empty through the P-01.  And these days, a lot cheaper than the 9mm.

OK, I need a little clarification
Are you saying that you're SP-02 / Shadow 2, Ploy Mags work with an all steel CZ75 KADET Kit ?
Or is the KADET Kit you're using an alloy Shadow 2 or an SP-01 Kit ?
If you've found a way to get those Ploy Mags to work with a Steel CZ75 KADET / KADET 2, you really need to post any mod you've use to make that work

[Andres B]

I can't figure out how to respond to a message (says I do not have access) so I'm answering a question about the Kadet 22lr polymer mags I use for my P-01.  Mine are marked CZ 75 SP-01*CZ Shadow 2.  They stick out of the grip of the P-01 but I found the X-Grip adapter for the Beretta 92C magazines works great to fill the contour on the front of the grip (nearly flush on the back).  They have worked flawlessly for me.  Easy to load with the tabs and easy to empty through the P-01.  And these days, a lot cheaper than the 9mm.

OK, I need a little clarification
Are you saying that you're SP-02 / Shadow 2, Ploy Mags work with an all steel CZ75 KADET Kit ?
Or is the KADET Kit you're using an alloy Shadow 2 or an SP-01 Kit ?
If you've found a way to get those Ploy Mags to work with a Steel CZ75 KADET / KADET 2, you really need to post any mod you've use to make that work

 Second that. If such mod exists. Poly mags are lot cheaper than CZ 75 Kadet, Kadet2 mags.

[Crosstrains]

Sorry if I confused the question.  I am using an SP-01 Kadet on my P-01 Omega with the polymer mags.  I specifically got that Kadet kit because the mags were so much cheaper and had the easy load tabs.

[DenStinett]

Sorry if I confused the question.  I am using an SP-01 Kadet on my P-01 Omega with the polymer mags.  I specifically got that Kadet kit because the mags were so much cheaper and had the easy load tabs.

Thanks for that
I understand your thought process too
Personally, I appreciate the design, that yields the amazing accuracy, of the all steel CZ75 KADET Adaptors

[Crosstrains]

I can appreciate that, too.  I know that at this point in my gun life, my pistols and Kadet are much more accurate than I am.  I was amazed at how accurate my Kadet was - I can only imagine the all steel one if that's even more accurate!