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Offline mkd

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2020, 08:43:44 AM »
i too was interested in a glock! even started a tread here that has over 8,000 views. many said go with the cz instead. when i was all done i ended up with a sp-01 single action and glad i went that way.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2020, 09:01:42 AM »
Good luck with your search.  Have you looked at the Walther pistols? I don't own one but have handled several and they have features that you seem to be seeking
originally I looked hard at the P99cAS as an interesting hybrid:  a striker with a decocker to simulate a DA/SA action.  But hard to find.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2020, 04:11:55 PM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with. Not to mention, introducing third party gimmicks like this increase your failure rate exponentially. If you want a 48 then go with a 48. Just don’t trash it up with gimmicky aftermarket parts that only increase your risk.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2020, 05:48:14 PM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with. Not to mention, introducing third party gimmicks like this increase your failure rate exponentially. If you want a 48 then go with a 48. Just don’t trash it up with gimmicky aftermarket parts that only increase your risk.
There is no "device" for any pistol that removes the need for safe gun handling but the striker control device is really not a "trashy gimmick" either and it is certainly not going to increase any one's failure rate exponentially if they are employing safe gun handling techniques in the first place. The notion that any one has a failure rate in their gun handling is absurd in the first place. You should not have a failure rating, if you do sell your guns and buy a bat. There's nothing wrong with this upgrade so long as the user does not rely on it to overcome carelessness.
I won't be owning a glock in this lifetime but if I did I'd certainly give a look at one of these and honestly I'd probably do the thumb safety upgrade as well.
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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2020, 08:59:19 AM »
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The G48 is significantly lighter (EIGHT oz lighter)


I would agree that lighter is usually (but not always) better, but I would also make sure you have a high quality holster and belt for whatever you carry.  A proper setup can make carrying most any pistol a comfortable experience, while a bad one can make you not want to carry at all.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2020, 09:10:41 AM »
If I was forced to comply to the 10 round mags I'd go 43x or P365XL over the 48.

But for me the shorter barrel would be insignificant and not listed as a disadvantage as your original post stated.

That is of course I didn't choose the CZ option you didn't list, CZ P10S....


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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2020, 09:18:10 AM »
i too was interested in a glock! even started a tread here that has over 8,000 views. many said go with the cz instead. when i was all done i ended up with a sp-01 single action and glad i went that way.

good to know, thanks

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2020, 02:01:02 PM »
Good luck with your search.  Have you looked at the Walther pistols? I don't own one but have handled several and they have features that you seem to be seeking
Walthers are so hard to find nowadays though...

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2020, 03:45:16 PM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with. Not to mention, introducing third party gimmicks like this increase your failure rate exponentially. If you want a 48 then go with a 48. Just don’t trash it up with gimmicky aftermarket parts that only increase your risk.
the striker control device ("gadget") simply replaces the back plate on the slide.  please explain how it affects the weight and length of the trigger pull.

while I understand the striker has to bear the additional resistance of pushing the plate, the additional weight is trivial.  But I don't see any way it affects the length of pull.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2020, 11:11:39 AM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with...

I agree with your first statement, but your second leads me to believe you don't fully understand what the strike control device (SCD) actually does. In no way does it lighten the trigger, as the stock slide backplate doesn't have any mechanism to react to the striker moving rearward. The SCD also doesn't require any modifications to the stock Glock trigger. I have one I use on my Glock 26 and 29. I have taken trigger pull readings before and after. There was no change in force required outside the usual variance in reading from pull-to-pull.

Maybe you're thinking of an aftermarket trigger with reduced trigger pre-travel, swapped out trigger connector, and striker spring? If that's the case, then I generally agree with your second statement.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2020, 12:15:03 PM »
If you're considering going the polymer/striker route, and you want a sub-compact, I would highly recommend the P-10S, and esp. the new OR version. Vastly superior ergonomics, trigger and sights to a G48 imo. And of course, it's optics-ready, so you've always got that option without having to send it away and get it milled. And they make 10-round mags for it.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2020, 08:53:56 PM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with...

I agree with your first statement, but your second leads me to believe you don't fully understand what the strike control device (SCD) actually does. In no way does it lighten the trigger, as the stock slide backplate doesn't have any mechanism to react to the striker moving rearward. The SCD also doesn't require any modifications to the stock Glock trigger. I have one I use on my Glock 26 and 29. I have taken trigger pull readings before and after. There was no change in force required outside the usual variance in reading from pull-to-pull.

Maybe you're thinking of an aftermarket trigger with reduced trigger pre-travel, swapped out trigger connector, and striker spring? If that's the case, then I generally agree with your second statement.

Yeah so I guess I’m completely wrong on the mechanics of this device. I was under the impression it did more than what it actually does. It’s certainly an intriguing addition but not anything I would ever put on a carry gun.  I can’t get past the opportunity for failure. 

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2020, 10:30:59 PM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with...

I agree with your first statement, but your second leads me to believe you don't fully understand what the strike control device (SCD) actually does. In no way does it lighten the trigger, as the stock slide backplate doesn't have any mechanism to react to the striker moving rearward. The SCD also doesn't require any modifications to the stock Glock trigger. I have one I use on my Glock 26 and 29. I have taken trigger pull readings before and after. There was no change in force required outside the usual variance in reading from pull-to-pull.

Maybe you're thinking of an aftermarket trigger with reduced trigger pre-travel, swapped out trigger connector, and striker spring? If that's the case, then I generally agree with your second statement.

Yeah so I guess I’m completely wrong on the mechanics of this device. I was under the impression it did more than what it actually does. It’s certainly an intriguing addition but not anything I would ever put on a carry gun.  I can’t get past the opportunity for failure.
The opportunity for failure does not fall to the device. The handler of the weapon holds that responsibility soley.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2020, 06:15:19 AM »
The striker control device is no substitute for proper gun handling. In fact, it lightens trigger and shortens the length of pull so much that it makes it inherently more dangerous than keeping it stock to begin with...

I agree with your first statement, but your second leads me to believe you don't fully understand what the strike control device (SCD) actually does. In no way does it lighten the trigger, as the stock slide backplate doesn't have any mechanism to react to the striker moving rearward. The SCD also doesn't require any modifications to the stock Glock trigger. I have one I use on my Glock 26 and 29. I have taken trigger pull readings before and after. There was no change in force required outside the usual variance in reading from pull-to-pull.

Maybe you're thinking of an aftermarket trigger with reduced trigger pre-travel, swapped out trigger connector, and striker spring? If that's the case, then I generally agree with your second statement.

Yeah so I guess I’m completely wrong on the mechanics of this device. I was under the impression it did more than what it actually does. It’s certainly an intriguing addition but not anything I would ever put on a carry gun.  I can’t get past the opportunity for failure.
The opportunity for failure does not fall to the device. The handler of the weapon holds that responsibility soley.

All mechanical devices fail eventually. Safe handling is the responsibility of the handler. I still wouldn’t add an unnecessary aftermarket piece like this to a carry gun.

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Re: Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2020, 02:06:21 PM »
All mechanical devices fail eventually. Safe handling is the responsibility of the handler. I still wouldn’t add an unnecessary aftermarket piece like this to a carry gun.
This attitude is just plain silly.  There is nothing wrong with an additional layer of safety when it has absolutely no negatives.   

Pushing a gun into a holster is about the most dangerous thing you can do with it.   Humans are not perfect, particularly during stress.  Guns (and gun ownership) is built around various layers and of safeties and safe handling practices.  Now something that can give you an additional layer is a bad thing?

Here's an excellent video by lucky gunner on the topic and how the resistance to them makes no sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz7xYMChXjo