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Offline briang2ad

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Handguards and HEAT
« on: May 31, 2021, 02:10:57 PM »
We all know how hot the VZ 58 gets in any type of rapid fire. 

https://www.bonesteelarms.com/VZ-58-SRS-Lower-Hand-Guard-SRS-VZ-L.htm

orhttps://zahal.org/product/fab-defense-vz-58-vanguard-m-lok-handguard-system/


The bonesteel is great kit, but I suppose the aluminum heats up rapidly.  It has covers but they can trap heat.

The Zahal unlike the stock handguard has a heat shield and may prove a good solution. 

Anyone have first hand experience?   Thanks.
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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 03:26:32 PM »
For heat management, I think I’d choose the Bonesteel and add a good angled or vertical grip.
I’ve bought gear from both companies and never been disappointed.

I run the stock furniture with an aftermarket aluminum heat shield insert (sadly no longer available) and bolted on a pic rail on my bottom handguard to mount a Stark SE-5 Express grip. I’ve also tried a stubby vertical grip and that works well too.

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 04:06:21 PM »
For heat management, I think I’d choose the Bonesteel and add a good angled or vertical grip.
I’ve bought gear from both companies and never been disappointed.

Yup!  That worked for me.

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 11:29:46 AM »
I still have the NEA rail.  running a forgrip for this version needs a rail section and NOT sure I like it - I may be able to stick to a smooth version because the round holes give plenty fo leverage and the rail allows cooling.  I MAY stick to it, and the BSA one looks decent. Wonder about weight.  NEA setup is light.

Need to think about a side rail.  I'd like to keep weight in the rear.  Adding stuff up front just seems to through you off om this rifle.  Even just a small light and micro add weight.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2021, 04:18:11 PM »
I have the NEA rail also, and it does get warm. I'm still looking for options for a front grip or light, since it does not have a side or bottom rail - only the open circles.
I'd post a pic if I could remember how to do it.  lol...

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2021, 10:54:01 PM »
I have the bonesteel handgaurds.  I got the grip panel set from slate black industries and have been running it that way for a while now.  They dont heat up that much even with doing Kalashnicon summer shoots in Missouri.  I did however manage to brand myself on the gas block by grabbing to far up on the gun after a stage there a couple weeks ago.

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2021, 11:34:47 AM »
I have the NEA rail also, and it does get warm. I'm still looking for options for a front grip or light, since it does not have a side or bottom rail - only the open circles.
I'd post a pic if I could remember how to do it.  lol...

I plan on doing the Magpul offset light mount from the top rails.  I want to leave the sides of the NEA rail open for more ventilation.  I may stick with this because I have it.  And... its in a way vintage cool. 

https://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/12/outdoorhub-czech-vz-58-rifle-kalashnikovs-superior-cousin-2014-12-09_21-10-54.jpg

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2021, 11:45:11 AM »
For heat management, I think I’d choose the Bonesteel and add a good angled or vertical grip.
I’ve bought gear from both companies and never been disappointed.

Yup!  That worked for me.


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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2021, 04:59:59 PM »
Good look, briang2ad! Can you share about how you mounted the light to the NEA lower? (and a front grip, if you have one. I couldn't tell from the pic). I'm still unclear what to use for the round openings.

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2021, 06:19:17 PM »
https://www.ebay.com/p/1600172905 

I’m not certain this is right but it is a Troy type with round circular deals on the back.  I put a gen 2 AFG OM THE BOTTOM AND ITS PERFECT.  I plan to use a MP fooset light mount off the top front rail.

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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2021, 03:57:39 AM »
Troy circle rails are licensed from NEA.  AFAIK, that's why they licensed/made the NEA Vz58 rails in the first place -- to get rights/license to that rail attachment mechanism for their AR rails.
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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2021, 05:58:13 PM »
Folks:  The link I sent is likely NOT right.  The quick attach are different and that is what this is.  The older Troy ones work, but are VERY hard to find.  I had a thread with a link form years ago, but that is inactive. 

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2021, 09:27:53 PM »
Pretty sure these classic with backers will work:
https://www.del-ton.com/Troy-Quick-Attach-Rail-Section-p/mt1040.htm

Not sure about this length, but otherwise should work: https://www.del-ton.com/Troy-Quick-Attach-Rail-Section-p/mt1043.htm

These newer QD ones should too -- and this is Amazon, so if it doesn't returns are easy:
https://www.amazon.com/Troy-Industries-Swivel-Hole-Rail/dp/B0051T8RDM

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Re: Handguards and HEAT
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2021, 10:31:42 AM »
The photo is exactly correct on the Delton, but the words are wrong - quick attach are the newer kind that do not work - so you have to call and get the SKU.

The ones at amazon are MLOK and dead wrong. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2021, 11:56:46 AM »
Well, I just ordered the AFG-2 (and a T-shirt, while I was there :-) )
So now I need to find a mount that will work for the NEA lower. What exactly should I ask for if I call Del-ton?