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Offline armoredman

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2021, 03:12:59 AM »
It's not "abandonment" for the 805 - it's the fact that the 805 is no longer a military firearm, and CZ is a worldwide company that has many military/police contracts across the globe. Now, when CZ starts producing here in the US would it be nice if they made 805 parts? Heck yes it would be, but I don't know if they will, considering there really weren't that many 805s sold before the rifle was discontinued. I hope they do and have asked them to do so - we will see. I would also like to see the BREN 2 MR made here as well as a bunch of other CZ firearms, but with the perfect storm of the plandemic and world instability plus a US Administration VERY openly hostile to firearms manufacturers...I don't know what is going on in KC.

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2021, 09:55:49 AM »
Even if it was, I wouldn't even consider it, not after this debacle (to say it lightly) with the CZ Bren 2 parts situation and warranty claims for the x39 models. 

They aren't willing or ready to support their products.  It's a bit confusing to me, as they compete with the 'big boys' when it comes to handguns, yet already abandoned support for the Bren 805 (essentially making them paperweights).

I hope to hell that CZ hasn’t adopted Sig’s business model: stop producing parts for any model that goes out of production. In the long run, they’ll be shooting themselves in the foot as customers won’t trust them to support they’re guns. That’s one reason why I refuse to buy Sigs anymore. You would think that CZ would have enough sense to still support the 805 with militaries buying it, including the Czech army, I believe:

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 10:37:39 AM »
Even if it was, I wouldn't even consider it, not after this debacle (to say it lightly) with the CZ Bren 2 parts situation and warranty claims for the x39 models. 

They aren't willing or ready to support their products.  It's a bit confusing to me, as they compete with the 'big boys' when it comes to handguns, yet already abandoned support for the Bren 805 (essentially making them paperweights).

I hope to hell that CZ hasn’t adopted Sig’s business model: stop producing parts for any model that goes out of production. In the long run, they’ll be shooting themselves in the foot as customers won’t trust them to support they’re guns. That’s one reason why I refuse to buy Sigs anymore. You would think that CZ would have enough sense to still support the 805 with militaries buying it, including the Czech army, I believe:

Bro, better hope there not ANYTHING like Sig.
When they moved to the States, quality went out the door.
That's nothing against American workers. It's about Sigs CEO and GREED.
Just the difference in triggers alone between the older P series and newer P.Series
are staggering!! You would not believe the amount of creep there is
in a new P Series Sig. It's pathetic.
I have an old cheap S&W 9mm with a plastic trigger and it's far superior to the new P Series Sigs
No joke. Even their so called "Legion" (lmao) pistols are just as bad
Heck, that's why Robert Burke, The Sig Armorer has a trigger package just for
getting these new P Series Sigs back to original German spec
I used to be a Sig guy. The P220 W. German Sig I had shot lights out bro
And she would eat ANYTHING you put in her. Try that with a new 220
I tell ya, you wouldn't believe the fall from grace that Sig went thru
I just hope CZ doesn't go thru that.

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 11:00:10 PM »
Even if it was, I wouldn't even consider it, not after this debacle (to say it lightly) with the CZ Bren 2 parts situation and warranty claims for the x39 models. 

They aren't willing or ready to support their products.  It's a bit confusing to me, as they compete with the 'big boys' when it comes to handguns, yet already abandoned support for the Bren 805 (essentially making them paperweights).

I hope to hell that CZ hasn’t adopted Sig’s business model: stop producing parts for any model that goes out of production. In the long run, they’ll be shooting themselves in the foot as customers won’t trust them to support they’re guns. That’s one reason why I refuse to buy Sigs anymore. You would think that CZ would have enough sense to still support the 805 with militaries buying it, including the Czech army, I believe:

Bro, better hope there not ANYTHING like Sig.
When they moved to the States, quality went out the door.
That's nothing against American workers. It's about Sigs CEO and GREED.
Just the difference in triggers alone between the older P series and newer P.Series
are staggering!! You would not believe the amount of creep there is
in a new P Series Sig. It's pathetic.
I have an old cheap S&W 9mm with a plastic trigger and it's far superior to the new P Series Sigs
No joke. Even their so called "Legion" (lmao) pistols are just as bad
Heck, that's why Robert Burke, The Sig Armorer has a trigger package just for
getting these new P Series Sigs back to original German spec
I used to be a Sig guy. The P220 W. German Sig I had shot lights out bro
And she would eat ANYTHING you put in her. Try that with a new 220
I tell ya, you wouldn't believe the fall from grace that Sig went thru
I just hope CZ doesn't go thru that.


Yeah, I hear you 110% - would hate to see CZ go down the same road that Ron Cohen took Sig Sauer down!

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2021, 12:29:09 AM »
I would only hope that they keep the best from Colt and go with higher quality. I have always had excellent from CZ-USA...discounting the CZ-100, but we won't go there... ;D

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2021, 07:48:31 AM »
Any news fellas?
This will be an incredible semi automatic. 308

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2021, 12:46:20 PM »
Any news fellas?
This will be an incredible semi automatic. 308

 If/when it happens it will be an announcement at NRA or SHOT. So keep an eye on announcements around those. NRA is obviously over this year, but the stuff that was going to be announced there (P-10F Comp Ready and P-10M) still was announced. Next one up is SHOT...

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2021, 02:34:03 PM »
You’ll hear it first from the bearded guy with the Toyota truck [emoji3]

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2021, 12:15:12 AM »
You’ll hear it first from the bearded guy with the Toyota truck [emoji3]
Oh, ouch... ;D

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2021, 01:00:09 AM »
There was an announcement I read that CZ Group is planning something with the Colt factory...praying the BREN 2 BR is one of the first projects!

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2021, 07:39:25 PM »
Let's really hope so.
I had an M1A Scout but, she was a tad heavy.
I'm really wanting to replace that semi auto .308....
I'll bet that Bren 2 BR shoots like a dream.

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2021, 02:03:01 PM »
Well fellas, any news?
Did CZ ever make that big announcement?
I just dont understand it. With the way things are, making the Bren Battle Rifle would be like having a license to print money
Reckon CZ is tired of making money?

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2021, 03:30:33 PM »
Well fellas, any news?
Did CZ ever make that big announcement?
I just dont understand it. With the way things are, making the Bren Battle Rifle would be like having a license to print money
Reckon CZ is tired of making money?


Well, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for CZ to come through on this, and even if they did, all indications are that they wouldn’t have any spare parts or customer support (3 years on, still no fix for overgassed x39 Bren 2s or any reliable supply of spare parts for either caliber).

Even though you might wait several months, I think for a .308 battle rifle, you’d be better off with a Rob Arms XCR-M, a good piston AR upper, SCAR, good AR10, etc. it’s not likely that CZ will release the BR soon, but even if they did, see the above issues.
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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2021, 11:10:31 PM »
Wow. Didn't realize it was that bad with CZ support.
Makes no sense bro.  They make one helluva product.
Just crazy that they haven't resolved those issues.
I'm gonna take your advice.
I'll probably go with an Armalite 3 Gun 308 as I already have the 22e Wylde version and I don't particularly need a battle rifle anyways.
I may even decide to get that Sig Tread 308. Heard a lot of good things about it.
But, I'll also strongly consider what you mentioned
Thank you - I appreciate the 411 bro.

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Re: Anyone think the Bren Battle Rifle will ever be a thing in the US?
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2021, 01:19:11 AM »
The political climate is a huge issue, too - Washington right now is decidedly anti gun and anti-gun companies. Could be a number of manufacturers are keeping heads down - note the only rifle CZ has introduced recently is the new 600 series, a bolt action chassis rifle.
I still hope they will bring out the BREN 2 BR, but until something changes where CZ can be sure of making their investment back plus, they won't risk the venture capital.