I've loaded plenty of the PD 124gr JHPs but with availability being what it is, I bought 4000 of the 124 FMJs. Expecting I'll end up close to the JHP load, 4.5gr HP-38/231. Looks like the bullet shape/ogive should allow for a longer OAl. I've heard that some load out to 1.16" so will load a few dummy rounds to check max in my CZs. Thoughts?