Milling a TS2 for an SRO?

[airgunner]

Hey guys,

Thinking about picking up a TS2 and sending the slide to be milled for a Trijicon SRO.

Anybody here been there/done that? Any known issues or concerns with that plan? Who would you recommend do the work?

Thanks

[2morechains]

Check out Fire 4 Effect.  I saw a pic on FB not too long ago where they milled a TS2 for a SRO.  I have a couple of Shadow 2s that F4E milled for a SRO.  Excellent work, very happy with them. 

[airgunner]

Thanks for the info but 2 issues with them...

1. According to their Website, they are not taking any new orders as they are reworking their business model (whatever that means)?

2. Looks like they used their own custom slide as opposed to milling the factory slide but thinking about it, that might not be a bad thing depending on the cost of their slide?

[JBruns]

Check with Cajun Gun Works. They did the slide on my Shadow2 for the SRO, and it turned out great.

[George16]

If I were you, I’d buy a TSO and a CZ Custom Multioptic mount (it accepts different dots such as RMR, Sig Romeo, Docter, Shield, Holosun etc). It’s a frame mount and it’s a cheaper option compared to having your slide milled and be stuck with an RMR footprint dot only.

Here’s my TSO with a trijicon RMR and czechmate with a Sig Romeo 1 Pro and the CZ Custom Multioptic mount (part number 10526).


Here’s the link to the CZ Custom multi optic mount
Without holes for thumbrest but you can still install the stock thumb rest on top of the mount.
https://czcustom.com/czc-parts-made-in-the-usa/multi-optic-side-scope-mount.html

With holes for thumbrest (thumbrest comes with it)

[2morechains]

Thanks for the info but 2 issues with them...

1. According to their Website, they are not taking any new orders as they are reworking their business model (whatever that means)?

2. Looks like they used their own custom slide as opposed to milling the factory slide but thinking about it, that might not be a bad thing depending on the cost of their slide?

I’m sure they’ll be back up and running soon. 

Where did you hear about them using their own slides?  Their standard package with the Shadow 2 and TacSport is to take the factory slide and do quite a bit of slide milling to remove weight, plus the optics cut. 

[airgunner]

So I've done some more research and contacted CZC and have learned the following

An RMR/SRO is too wide to be direct milled to a TS slide and really even a standard S2 slide without a adaptor plate of some type.

CZC offers this option... https://czcustom.com/custom-work/s-i-rds-plate-cut-and-plate.html. The nice thing with this option is I'm not locked into the RMR/SRO footprint should I need or choose to switch to different optic in the future.

Fire4Effect has their own solution... https://www.fire-4-effect.com/?product=cz75-tactical-sport-slide-cuts-milling

If I were you, I’d buy a TSO and a CZ Custom Multioptic mount (it accepts different dots such as RMR, Sig Romeo, Docter, Shield, Holosun etc). It’s a frame mount and it’s a cheaper option compared to having your slide milled and be stuck with an RMR footprint dot only.

Thank you for the suggestion but I've handled both the TSO and TS2 and I prefer the TS2 and using CZC's RDS plate gives me the same option of changing optics but I prefer the position of the optic in a milled slide over a plate the sits above the slide.

Lastly, the price difference between the TSO and TS2 makes up for the cost of milling the slide. Matter of fact it would be cheaper to get a TS2 and have it milled by CZC then to buying a TSO and CZC's side mount and slide racker (which would be almost a must have at that point). That said, it's not about money as much as it is about getting the setup I want.

I’m sure they’ll be back up and running soon. 

Where did you hear about them using their own slides?  Their standard package with the Shadow 2 and TacSport is to take the factory slide and do quite a bit of slide milling to remove weight, plus the optics cut.

Their site was kind of back up the other day but did not have prices listed. I was wrong about them using their own slide (false assumption/conclusion on my part)

[2morechains]

It’s true that the RMR/SRO’s mounting footprint is wider than the width of the Shadow 2 / TSO / TS2 slide.  And you’re correct that several companies have figured out how to mil the slide for the wider footprint. 

CZC has their plate system.

Several companies, such as Primary Arms, CGW, Scott Millam (formerly with CGW) do it in a way where the mounting screws are longer and thread into the lower portion of the slide where the slide is wider to accommodate the mounting screws, thereby giving it the holding power.

Fire4Effect does it via their own system where they mill out a pocket on either side of the slide and insert threaded blocks that makes the slide wide enough to mount the optic.

Which is the best?  That’s up to each owner.  I chose to go with F4E’s system, and have not had any problems.  I also know people that went the CZC plate route, or the Primary Arms/CGW method, and have not heard of any problems.  However personally I like how clean the F4E system is.  F4E charges about $300 for their optic mounting system, plus another $300 if you want the slide lightened and refinished.   

[airgunner]

Which is the best?  That’s up to each owner.  I chose to go with F4E’s system, and have not had any problems.  I also know people that went the CZC plate route, or the Primary Arms/CGW method, and have not heard of any problems.  However personally I like how clean the F4E system is.  F4E charges about $300 for their optic mounting system, plus another $300 if you want the slide lightened and refinished.

F4E's site is back up and prices are listed now. I updated my post above. They are very proud of their work (price wise) but it is pretty slick.

ETA - Here is a pic of CGW's direct mill option. Look how close the screws holes are to the edge of the slide. Looks like part of the screw would even be exposed in the serration (which confirms what CZC was telling me)...



Sure its another option but not one I would choose. CGW does appear to have a plate option as well. Normally I like direct milled over plates but in this case I think a plate of some type is the way to go?

[JBruns]

So I've done some more research and contacted CZC and have learned the following

An RMR/SRO is too wide to be direct milled to a TS slide and really even a standard S2 slide without a adaptor plate of some type.

That's not true, at least for the S2. CGW milled my SRO directly to my S2 slide. Not knocking the CZC plate system, just saying.

[airgunner]

So I've done some more research and contacted CZC and have learned the following

An RMR/SRO is too wide to be direct milled to a TS slide and really even a standard S2 slide without a adaptor plate of some type.

That's not true, at least for the S2. CGW milled my SRO directly to my S2 slide. Not knocking the CZC plate system, just saying.

It is true that the RMR footprint is wider then the slide. Can it be done? Sure (see my edit above) but its not recommended by CZC and after seeing the pics from CGW, its confirms what CZC was telling me and its not an option I would choose either.

[2morechains]

$334 to have your slide milled and black nitride finished is pretty reasonable considering what all F4E has to do.  Not only do they mill the slide for an optic pocket they also fabricate the locking blocks for the optic, mill pockets for the locking blocks, and screw them in place. The end result of their work is a slide that is just wide enough in the right places to accommodate the RMR/SRO mounting screws.  And whoever they use for black-nitriding does a really good job bc the finish on mine has held up pretty good to holster wear and all the countless draws I do in comp and dry fire training. 

If you want the fancy cuts on the slide that F4E offers to lighten the slide, then get your check book out, but they are not necessary. 

Just curious, what are you planning to use the TS2 w/ optic for?  Range gun, 3-gun, local comp league shoots, etc.? 

[JBruns]

So I've done some more research and contacted CZC and have learned the following

An RMR/SRO is too wide to be direct milled to a TS slide and really even a standard S2 slide without a adaptor plate of some type.

That's not true, at least for the S2. CGW milled my SRO directly to my S2 slide. Not knocking the CZC plate system, just saying.

It is true that the RMR footprint is wider then the slide. Can it be done? Sure (see my edit above) but its not recommended by CZC and after seeing the pics from CGW, its confirms what CZC was telling me and its not an option I would choose either.

It is steel screws going into a steel slide. The optic is secure. But that's not really the point. You said the RMR/SRO were too wide to be direct milled to an S2 slide. That is not accurate.