Shadow 2 - Need a DA trigger wall

[Fuzzy Sights]

Have about 10,000 rounds on my Shadow 2 and the wall on my DA trigger pull has disappeared.  The DA trigger is a nice 9-10 lb butter smooth with no stacking.  It used to have about a 1lb wall where the sear started to engage the hammer, but now that is no longer noticeable.  The wall gave me notice to further refine the sites when shooting at speed.  I am still hitting the target just not always the A-zone.  SA pull is great but now around 3.5lbs, which is a little light for a dual use pistol. 

Any suggestions?  Replace the sear spring and trigger return spring (latter it is just about time).  Replace hammer and sear (not sure this would help and might make the problem worse.)  Truly looking for suggestions.

JW

[SEAKPhotog]

I can't offer any gunsmithing advice but have you posted this on the gunsmithing forum? I'd also send emails to CGW and CZC. I've found CGW in particular to be very responsive to questions like this. Good luck!

[Tok36]

Have about 10,000 rounds on my Shadow 2 and the wall on my DA trigger pull has disappeared.  The DA trigger is a nice 9-10 lb butter smooth with no stacking.  It used to have about a 1lb wall where the sear started to engage the hammer, but now that is no longer noticeable.  The wall gave me notice to further refine the sites when shooting at speed.  I am still hitting the target just not always the A-zone.  SA pull is great but now around 3.5lbs, which is a little light for a dual use pistol. 

Any suggestions?  Replace the sear spring and trigger return spring (latter it is just about time).  Replace hammer and sear (not sure this would help and might make the problem worse.)  Truly looking for suggestions.

JW

I am unclear as to precisely what we are talking about. Can you clarify at what point in the DA Trigger pull you were feeling this wall? You stated "It used to have about a 1lb wall where the sear started to engage the hammer". In a DA/SA CZ75 Variant, in Double Action. The force goes Trigger > Trigger Bar > Disco > Hammer. Towards the end of the DA pull, the Trigger Bar picks up the lower Sear leg and holds it up to clear the Hammer hooks.

If the "wall" is at the point where the Trigger Bar picks up the Sear it is conceivable that a stronger Sear spring may have some value but i am not sure that i am reading you correctly.

[Fuzzy Sights]

Contacted Stuart at CZ Custom and he passed a few suggestions.  As to what I am looking for is a DA pull that is smooth, but comes to a defined wall (as the sear starts to move to release the hammer).  It probably needs to be at least a full pound, but brake cleanly.  This allows me on the first shot to refine my sights before the shot goes down range.  This very much helps if a precision shot is needed on the first shot and you need it quickly.

JW

[MoRivera]

Still trying to understand this 'wall' in the DA pull, as I've never had that in any of my CZ's.  There is the first partial-cock notch on the hammer which gives you a little 'click' when starting the DA pull with the hammer fully lowered.  I've used that at times to partially 'prep' the trigger, but from there it's just an even pull through.  So unless there's some stacking or grit/interference, the DA pull is one continuous and even motion, whether pulled fast or slower.

The decocker models lower the hammer to that partial-cock notch, so the DA pull from there is an even one with no click in the beginning of travel, but a little shorter than the hammer fully lowered.  But you're talking about a Shadow 2.  So are you saying that before, along the way in the DA sweep, you'd feel an extra pound or so of resistance where you'd be able to pause that pull and prep it before finishing the DA pull?  I've never experienced that in a DA/SA CZ....or if it's there I never noticed it.

[Fuzzy Sights]

YoRivera,

Yes.  Much like the DA pull on revolvers set up for match work back in the PPC days. Actually new several police officers who had the work done on their duty pistols.  Whether by accident or on purpose my Shadow 2 had one and the let off was really crisp.  Sadly now it does not and I either need to adapt to the trigger as is or find out how to work it back in. 

Really only makes a difference for precise shots at distance, beyond 15yds when that is the first (DA) shot.

JW

[MoRivera]

Well then frankly, it sounds like something that's not supposed to be there, or you notice some slight hangup or unevenness more than most.  It also sounds like it has smoothed itself out with use, and one long even 'sweep' is probably what it's supposed to be. I think most revolver guys I know 'prep' and pause from just practice and muscle memory when they want to if trying to be more precise with DA.  But as aIU mentioned no a CZ, that first part of the long pull to the partial cock audible/tactile 'click' is enough prep for me, and from there it's just an even straight pull through.  probably helps that the DA pull on my Shadow is around 7.5 lbs tops.

[Fuzzy Sights]

Still in conversation with CZ Custom.  Will see what is possible.

JW