P07 vs. P01

[briang2ad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcK724OMnPk

[xring11]

Thanks for posting this.
I enjoyed the video, which confirmed why I like the P07.
as well as inspired me to spend more time with the P01.
 

[Phyffe]

Didn't even bother watching this video.

In many of his other videos he has stated time and again that his favorite concealed carry gun is his P-07.

Heck, if it was available at the time I probably would have chosen the P-07 over the P10S that I did wind up buying

[M1A4ME]

I watched it.  Not sure he understands everything he thinks he knows about the two pistols but he's right about them being good ones.

Neither of my P01s is as accurate as my .40 P07 or 9MM P09.

The P01 feels better in my hand, the P07 shoots better groups.  And the P09 is even better than the P07.

Neither is/comes red dot ready either. 

[briang2ad]

I watched it.  Not sure he understands everything he thinks he knows about the two pistols but he's right about them being good ones.

Neither of my P01s is as accurate as my .40 P07 or 9MM P09.

The P01 feels better in my hand, the P07 shoots better groups.  And the P09 is even better than the P07.

Neither is/comes red dot ready either.

I tend to agree with this statement.  It is amazing to me how fast I can ‘dial in’ my p 07s and p09s. 

I respect the shooting abilities of HO, and enjoy his vids.  But I think I heard him say that the SIG P320 is not drop safe because it does not have a dingus.  That is just wrong.

[Sectionchief]

I watched it.  Not sure he understands everything he thinks he knows about the two pistols but he's right about them being good ones.

Neither of my P01s is as accurate as my .40 P07 or 9MM P09.

The P01 feels better in my hand, the P07 shoots better groups.  And the P09 is even better than the P07.

Neither is/comes red dot ready either.

I tend to agree with this statement.  It is amazing to me how fast I can ‘dial in’ my p 07s and p09s. 

I respect the shooting abilities of HO, and enjoy his vids.  But I think I heard him say that the SIG P320 is not drop safe because it does not have a dingus.  That is just wrong.

Well he’s not exactly wrong there because the initial problem with the P320 accidental and or negligent discharge was the inertia of the weight of the trigger causing it to move/fall backwards from a certain amount of impact. A trigger shoe safety would have prevented that from happening. Since then, Sig lightened the weight/profile of the trigger but still no trigger shoe safety (or hinged trigger like M&P) which is a standard for most striker fired pistols these days. I still have a couple of P320’s left but don’t use them.

[Sectionchief]

I watched it.  Not sure he understands everything he thinks he knows about the two pistols but he's right about them being good ones.

Neither of my P01s is as accurate as my .40 P07 or 9MM P09.

The P01 feels better in my hand, the P07 shoots better groups.  And the P09 is even better than the P07.

Neither is/comes red dot ready either.

My recorded scores from shooting drills from holster over time look like this:
P09>P01>P07>SP01.
I’m perplexed by my SP-01(s) lack of holding the #1 performer spot. All my CZ’s are tuned by CGW/CZC.

[Phyffe]

Sectionchief,

Is your SP-01 a Shadow?

If it isn't would you it wouldn't make a difference in its performance over your other pistols?

[Crawl]

Well he’s not exactly wrong there because the initial problem with the P320 accidental and or negligent discharge was the inertia of the weight of the trigger causing it to move/fall backwards from a certain amount of impact. A trigger shoe safety would have prevented that from happening. Since then, Sig lightened the weight/profile of the trigger but still no trigger shoe safety (or hinged trigger like M&P) which is a standard for most striker fired pistols these days. I still have a couple of P320’s left but don’t use them.

And the 320 still isn't fixed even after they made the trigger worse in an attempt to make it safe. There are still issues with discharges on these things!

[CzMatte]

FWIW The guy says in many of his videos the P07 is his favorite.

[Sectionchief]

Sectionchief,

Is your SP-01 a Shadow?

If it isn't would you it wouldn't make a difference in its performance over your other pistols?

It's not a Shadow, just tuned-up to it's max potential by CZ Custom (or CGW. I have more than one SP-01).

[M1A4ME]

Many (not all) P07 and P09 pistols really shine.  My P07 .40 is more accurate than any of my metal framed CZ pistols.  My P09 is 9MM is more accurate than the P07 .40.  My 9MM P07 is not as accurate as the other two and my .40 P09 is not as accurate as the .40 P07.  Just the way it is, I accept it and enjoy carrying/shooting the P07 .40.

I'm not saying the metal framed pistols can't be accurate/more accurate than mine.

I will remind the forum that Joe does his best long range pistol shooting with the plastic framed pistols.  Used to be the P09 (his videos inspired me to buy my own 9MM P09) and I think he also shoots the P07 and P10 (more than one size/model) at 100 and 200 yds. and shoots some fantastic groups.

[fatherguidosarducci]

How does the grip and trigger reach in the p-07 compare to the p-01?

I've got the p-01 omega,  and it's just fine with after market thin grips from LOK for my smaller hands.
I'm really interested in a p-07 based on the overwhelmingly positive reviews (can only get it in 9mm now, it seems, which is fine), but am a bit concerned about trigger reach in stock form, and am wondering how it handles. 

I hear of women who seem to love it, so that's somewhat reassuring.

[Crawl]

P-07 trigger reach is even shorter than on the P-01. It has interchangeable back straps in order to make it fit more people. And since it's thinner, it conceals more easily. And it has a manual safety...which is why the P-01 isn't an option for me in the first place. Get a P-07!

[fatherguidosarducci]

P-07 trigger reach is even shorter than on the P-01. It has interchangeable back straps in order to make it fit more people. And since it's thinner, it conceals more easily. And it has a manual safety...which is why the P-01 isn't an option for me in the first place. Get a P-07!

very helpful-- thank you.    I'm definitely going to pick one up. 
You're saying the decocker on the p-07 double as a manual safety?    I thought all the omega system guns simply have interchangeable docockers/safeties?