« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2023, 10:21:48 AM »
Common Reloading Issues Related to 9mm Tapered Cartridges -
Loose Bullet RetentionIt is quite common for reloaders to experience a phenomena in auto pistol cartridges known as "bullet setback", where the bullet is not tightly held in the case. In revolver cartridges there is a crimp cannelure and the mouth of the case is roll crimped into this notch in the bullet, holding it securely. But auto pistol bullets have no such cannelure, and so the bullet is held in place solely by the tension created when the case mouth inside diameter (ID) is smaller than the bullet's outside diameter (OD). This then creates a situation where the bullet is basically held in the case solely by a "press fit".
This is made possible by the "spring back" qualities of the brass. The larger bullet is pressed into the mouth of the smaller case, and the brass of the case mouth is elastic enough to shrink back around the bullet. This "press fit" is typically on the order of 0.002" difference between the 2 diameters.
• It is very important for the reloader to realize that the case mouth tension (aka 'case neck tension' in bottleneck rifle cases) that holds and retains the bullet in place is only the result of the difference in the 2 diameters BEFORE the bullet is inserted into the case.
Bullet retention cannot be added to or improved AFTER the bullet is inserted into the case. Therefore, taper crimp does not create or improve bullet-to-case retention. If fact, adding more taper crimp has been shown to actually reduce case mouth retention.
CORRECTION
Poor bullet retention may be caused by anything that upsets the very delicate balance between the bullet's OD and the case mouth's ID. The 2 most common causes are:
A. Case Mouth Too Large To correct loose bullet retention you first need to understand how reloading dies work. The Sizing Die (which only works against the outside of the cartridge case) first shrinks the outside of the cartridge case to a smaller dimension than needed. But, because of the tremendous variations in case wall thickness, the inside of the case mouth is not set to a precise ID.
A typical case Expander may be combined with other functions such as belling
Then in a traditional secondary operation, the case Expander (which works only on the inside of the case) reopens the case mouth to a precise inside diameter. It's this precise ID, working in together with the precision OD of the bullet, which then successfully holds the bullet in place.
If you are experiencing loose bullet retention, then the solution may be to reduce the diameter of the Expander in 0.001" steps until the proper retention is achieved. Reducing the Expander diameter is easily accomplished with 400 grit emery cloth while spinning the Expander in a drill motor.
B. Bullet Too Small Poorly made bullets can simply be undersized. This is more common with plated bullets, but can also happen with cast lead bullets. If your bullets are labeled as 0.355" (for instance), but actually measure at something smaller, then you have a bullet issue.
These are the 2 most common causes, but as with any abnormal occurrence, can have multiple causes. Close observation and careful measurements usually save the day.
TESTING
The reloader can (and should) randomly test pieces of their reloaded ammunition for this fault by holding the cartridge case and pushing the nose of the bullet into their reloading bench. With pressures under ~10 lbs, there should be no detectable movement of the bullet sliding back into the case, or "bullet setback".
OTHER FORMS
Bullet setback may also be experienced after a specific cartridge has been repeatedly loaded from the mag into the chamber by "slingshot-ing" the auto pistol slide. However, the forces of repeatedly loading the same cartridge over and over are so large that bullet setback is common in this instance, even on properly loaded factory auto pistol cartridges.
So although bullet setback might be noted in this situation, it indicates ammunition abuse and not poor loading technique.
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