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Offline Ron IL

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My new P01 Omega
« on: January 18, 2023, 11:01:47 AM »
Yesterday I picked up my new P01.  When I got home and was cleaning it I found out it was the Omega.  It wasn't on the tag that was on the gun.  It didn't look like it had been fired.  Sold as a used gun.  I got it cleaned up and took it to the range and put a little over 100 rounds through it.  I used three different loads I made up.  It didn't seem to like the 147 grain loads.  They shot too high.  I had some 135 gr loaded with Unique and 231.  It liked the 231 the best which my other 9's like too.  It cycled great.  It shot the group about 1" to the right at 7 and 25 yards.  When I got home and cleaned it up I noticed the rear sight was not centered.  So I moved it slightly and will shoot it again today off of a rest.  I got a little trigger slap off of it.  I noticed the roll pin for the firing pin looked like it has been hammered on and thought maybe someone had been messing with it unless that was the assembly from the factory.  After cleaning it up I tested the trigger pull and is 4 lb 5 oz consistent pull and no gritty feeling.  Really nice.  I use CCI primers and the ones I used are small rifle.  The firing pin only left a little indent in the primer but fired every one just fine.  I ordered a new extended firing pin and retaining pin and some punches.  When that all comes in I will pull the pin and see what is in the gun.  When I got the gun the grease in it was thick and sticky like it was pretty old.  I had to use a punch to get the lever lock out of it to pull the slide.  I cleaned it up and put fresh oil on it.  So far I like it a lot.  A few years ago I bought a 75B off of a guy at the range.  Super trigger but after a mag or two the trigger would not reset.  It had had a trigger job.  I could clean it and it did the same thing.  He bought it back off of me.  That was the only CZ I have owned before.  On this one the serial number is on the frame, barrel, and slide. It starts with G and on the slide there is a little triangle and 22.  I think I saw that was when it was made.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2023, 03:32:02 PM »
Went back today and fired 30 rounds.  I took my metal rest along and used it.  The shots looked to be centered good.  Had to use 6 o'clock hold.  I was hitting small tree leaves on the 25 yard berm.  I will shoot at the paper targets after I get it working good.  I had two that didn't fire.  No firing pin imprint on primer at all.  Ran them through again and fired OK.  When my firing pin and punches show up I will pull it to see what size it is.  If it is a short one I will swap it out and clean out the firing pin channel.  If it is a long one I may have to look into a stouter hammer spring. 
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2023, 05:00:14 PM »
Pull the hammer spring first. That's the most likely change as it affects the trigger pull.

On the P01 with the lanyard loop, it's also the easiest to change. The extension provided by the loop means you can push on any flat surface and extract the spring.... other than removing the grips... no tools needed.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2023, 06:27:27 PM »
Sounds like the firing pin retaining pin might be damaged and something is going on in the firing pin channel.

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2023, 06:37:07 PM »
My 9MM CZs don't like 147's either.  None of the ammo I'd loaded for the other pistols (XDM/M&P) with lead, plated, or hollow points (three different powders, too) shoot worth a darn in my CZs. 
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2023, 07:48:30 PM »
I purchased a PO1 Omega a few months back. I’m enjoying shooting and carrying it daily. It will misfire occasionally using small rifle primers but not often enough to be an issue. Maybe one out of every 100+ rounds. I primarily use small rifle primers.

My firing pin return spring is extremely heavy. Much more so than on my 1911s. I’ve thought about ordering a reduced power return spring. I wonder if any issues would develop if I did that. I don’t see any, especially since it has a firing pin block. With a lighter firing pin return spring, I believe it would be 100% reliable.

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2023, 08:21:49 PM »
Just one or two failures in 150 isn't bad for a range gun to have a super trigger.  Then I can practice my double action.  My hammer spring is not blue.  So maybe a 11.5 # spring.  A 4 1/2 lb trigger is super to me. The double action was over the 12 # max on my Lyman checker.  A couple times I got 11 1/2 lbs but mostly out of range.  A good thing about this gun is that you can fix it.  I am going to like it a lot.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2023, 05:41:42 AM »
I noticed last night dry firing it that it seemed easier.  This morning I put my tester on it and about 15 pulls the average is 4 lb 1 oz.  A lot of 3 lb 14 oz.  Maybe settling in or getting that old sticky lube out of it.  My only complaint on it is the slide is so small it is hard to grip it to pull it back.  I just lock the hammer back and it is a lot easier.  Just not much grip area.   It might become a problem when I get old.  It is a lot easier if I use the method I saw once where you hold the slide steady and move the frame.  It is a decocker which I like.  In the box is an extra set of ambi levers in a little plastic bag that is a lot slimmer.  I don't know what came in the gun new.  Maybe the slimmer ones were in it new and they changed it out to the slightly wider ones to make it easier to operate.  I haven't seen another one in a store to look at.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2023, 09:37:20 AM »
The Omega pistols I've bought came out of the box with the decocker levers installed and the safeties in the little bag.

Not hard to change out.  Instructions are in the owner's manual.  Harder to go back to decockers if you put the safeties in the frame (they tell me, I've only done it once to test something.)
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2023, 04:18:11 PM »
Just got my new extended firing pin and got it put in.
Old pin is:  2.442
New pin is: 2.474
with a difference of .032
Maybe have a little more dent in my primers and zero fail to fire.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2023, 07:13:10 PM »
Yesterday I picked up my new P01.  When I got home and was cleaning it I found out it was the Omega.  It wasn't on the tag that was on the gun.  It didn't look like it had been fired.  Sold as a used gun.  I got it cleaned up and took it to the range and put a little over 100 rounds through it.  I used three different loads I made up.  It didn't seem to like the 147 grain loads.  They shot too high.  I had some 135 gr loaded with Unique and 231.  It liked the 231 the best which my other 9's like too.  It cycled great.  It shot the group about 1" to the right at 7 and 25 yards.  When I got home and cleaned it up I noticed the rear sight was not centered.  So I moved it slightly and will shoot it again today off of a rest.  I got a little trigger slap off of it.  I noticed the roll pin for the firing pin looked like it has been hammered on and thought maybe someone had been messing with it unless that was the assembly from the factory.  After cleaning it up I tested the trigger pull and is 4 lb 5 oz consistent pull and no gritty feeling.  Really nice.  I use CCI primers and the ones I used are small rifle.  The firing pin only left a little indent in the primer but fired every one just fine.  I ordered a new extended firing pin and retaining pin and some punches.  When that all comes in I will pull the pin and see what is in the gun.  When I got the gun the grease in it was thick and sticky like it was pretty old.  I had to use a punch to get the lever lock out of it to pull the slide.  I cleaned it up and put fresh oil on it.  So far I like it a lot.  A few years ago I bought a 75B off of a guy at the range.  Super trigger but after a mag or two the trigger would not reset.  It had had a trigger job.  I could clean it and it did the same thing.  He bought it back off of me.  That was the only CZ I have owned before.  On this one the serial number is on the frame, barrel, and slide. It starts with G and on the slide there is a little triangle and 22.  I think I saw that was when it was made.
My P-01 steel frame had the same light fire pin primer strikes and my gunsmith discovered the factory 18 lb main spring had been replaced with a 13lb CGW spring. After replacing the main spring with the correct factory 18 lb spring, I have no issues whatsoever.

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2023, 01:19:25 PM »
I put in my extended firing pin and tested it this morning.  No failure to fire and the firing pin dent was a lot better.  I think that will fix it.  I have a couple hammer springs ordered and will test them too.  Right now with a 4 lb trigger that works good is great.  I don't know what spring is in it now.  It is not colored differently than a normal spring.  It may be possible that it has a 11.5 lb spring in it.  I fired 30 this morning for test and the only thing I saw was the primer dent was great and a few looked like it had a very slight drag mark.  That may even go away after it is all broken in.  I've been testing my loads and have found a good load to the point of sights with Unique and now testing some with 231 to get a good load.  These are with 135 gr TEK cast bullets.  It didn't like my 147 gr loads I had made for my 1911.  And the 1911 likes the 135 gr better too.  So I should end up with a good load that both will like.
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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2023, 03:28:46 PM »
My Omega with a 15 LB MS and the CGW FP kit shoots Wolf/Tula fine.  For reasons of geometry it seems that the P01 Omega can feel awful heavy in DA. 

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 06:41:17 AM »
I have a P-01 Omega with the MCARBO Kit installed its a fantastic pistol to shoot. Shooting one inch groups at 25 yards is some great shooting  :).

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Re: My new P01 Omega
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 07:29:38 AM »
I've installed 3 M*CARBO trigger spring kits in a 75 B, 97 B, and P-01 Omega. The Omega kit was the easiest to install.

They make a world of difference for not much money.