Just traded rem vssf 22/250 for 22/250 laminate varmint cz

[PCAus]

Due to the fact that I own 5 other cz's I have fallen in love with the solid feel of cz's and that trigger.

I have decided that to run all the same types of actions is an adavantage.

New gun should be here in a week or so

My only concern with my trade is that the 550 varmint 22/250 uses a 30/06 length action....is this really a disadvantage ??

Also can the mag box be altered to push rounds in through the top similar to the smle .303's ??

[Fred Flinstone]

C Z is due to come out with a short(.308 Win.) based action which will accomodate the new generation of short magnums. Hopefully this action will also be offered(my wish) in conventional calibers: .308 Win., .243 Win.,.22-250 Rem., etc. thus allowing a shorter bolt travel while cycling(faster that's all).

The CZ-550 series has a Mauser based extractor, this extractor system is well known for its extreme strenght & positive extraction but was never made as to cycle from the top. Every cartridge has to come from the magazine box. The .303 British/Lee Enfield has but a small extractor which leave dangerous big game hunters not wanting it.

If you want a push-feed system go with Remington ,Sako, Tikka, Savage, etc.

All the best,
Fred

[PCAus]

Fred,

I don't want a push feed mate.....I just traded my rem 700 22/250 on this cz 22/250. What I meant was can the varmint 22/250 be altered to work like the cz 30/06 rifles which just have the integral mag that loads in through the open bolt ie. regular floor plate and follower system.

I did not know cz was bringing out a .308 length action......what disadvatges will I experiecen having a 22/250 in a 30/06 length action if any ??

[Fred Flinstone]

Sorry if I'm not getting thru your post but even if you have a detachable mag or an integral one, Mauser systems can be loaded by the top BUT it has to pass thru your mag.

Probably to minise inventory, the CZ 550 is based on a .30-06 Sprinfield lenght action. This action can easily take .308 Win. type cartridges without any fuzz but it comes with an over-travel when cycling a bolt in hasty full to empty scenario.

Certain Short Magnums will be better performers(due to lenght of action) in this short action. The stock is a bit smaller thus lighter.  Perfect for hunting if walking long distances.

[PCAus]

Thanks Fred,

my 22/250 varmint SHOULD be here tommorrow, I am also considering a varmint .308 as well as to get the cz 22/250 varmint I had to trade my Ruger 30/06 and my rem 22/250 (ruger was a poor shooter).

Now I am confused between a CZ 30/06 or a matching varmint laminate in .308 (which would be great for spotlighting big bunny's in Outback N.S.W.) to replace my awful shooting Ruger........decisions are so much fun

I suppose I am worried that I will get worse performance from a long action 22/250 rather than a short one. I will only be using my cz laminate varmint 22/250 for shooting foxes from my landcruiser under the spotlight at any rate, so carrying weight does not matter.

Thanks for your help Fred........I wsih more cz lovers would get on this forum !!

[Fred Flinstone]

Your accuracy will not depend on lenght of action. The mention of lenght of action/short magnum is simply due to the fact that short magnums have more hump. I have a Ruger which is plagued with the same unaccuracy.

[PCAus]

Fred,

got the varmint 550 22/250 home had it for one hour and returned it...........the box mag is difficult to load (no good when spotlighting from the ute) and it fed poorly, the little 22/250 round is swimming in that action.

Until cz brings out a dedicated .308 length action I will only own cz's inthere outstanding mini mauser or there regular floor plate 30/06's etc.

Remember I am a guy who has 5 other cz's and I love them, but I think the way they have set up there .308 length rounds is lousy. They would have been better having the regular floorplate rather than the box mag.

I ordered a Remington VLS .243 and for an extra $100 upgraded to the HS stock. I intend to add HS Bottom metal or Williams Bottom Metal and am considering a Jewell trigger.

I am dissapointed some what as the CZ 550 laminate was an awsome looking gun.

Anyways now I need something between my cz hornet and rem .243  and a cz 527 in .204 or .223 would fit the bill here

[Fred Flinstone]

I agree fully with you, specialy in a moving vehicle. The CZ-550 in short cartridges  was probably a call from management to the engineering dept. on how to cut down $ on mfgr. & inventory cost.

Hoping CZ is going to put their act togeter with their incoming short action.

I was & still am not hot about detachable mags, a good way to loose your magazine box, I'd be willing to pay more if these rifles were offered with a self-contained mag with hinged floor trap(do'nt try to improve the wheel) in ALL CALIBERS.

Performance-wise you're better off with the .204 Ruger, but for cheap ammo go for the .223 Rem.

All the best,
Fred

[PCAus]

Thanks Fred for your help.

You metioned that cz is bringing out a dedicated .308 length action, when do you envisage it will make it to Australia ??

I imagine it will just be the orginal Brno action which was the right length was it the zkk 600 or 601, they will just amake the changes to that they made to the regular 550 actions.

Can't wait !!

Fred I wish this forum had more people talking about cz's !!

[Fred Flinstone]

There's talk about late this Fall in U.S., but like you we're the unlucky chaps way far yonder(I'm in Canada) it'll take about 1 year for us to start to see this youngster, Brno's short action was the ZKK-601. The new action is'nt quite the same(bolt machined otherwise) yet VERY, VERY SIMILAR.

CZ is'nt well kwown to lots of shooters, the few who know about CZ know them because of the CZ-75. Very few know they make excellent rifles also. , but recently the CZ-452 is starting to stir the U.S.