Strange failure

[1911P07]

I forgot to mention I also fired a mag of Phoenix ms JHP through it with zero issues. I will be cleaning it thoroughly and trying to maybe polish the feed ramp without going crazy and removing any of the barrel finish that is also on the ramp.

[bonj]

I forgot to mention I also fired a mag of Phoenix ms JHP through it with zero issues. I will be cleaning it thoroughly and trying to maybe polish the feed ramp without going crazy and removing any of the barrel finish that is also on the ramp.

I would refrain from any modifications such as polishing and removing any finish until you have completely cleaned and lubed the gun [I use Hornady one shot] , otherwise the Factory may refuse your possible pending warranty request.

[1911P07]

I just wanted to report That I just put a quick box of armscor through it (FMJ,50 rounds…I shoot at my house). With no difficulties whatsoever. In fact, it was a smooth operator and a joy to shoot. About 2 inch group at around 25 yards….I like this gun very much!!!

[1911P07]

Right…I don’t plan on taking a dremel to it or anything, just a good cleaning. I really hope it’s just a matter of break in or something simple. I guess I’ll just keep it clean and lubed, keep shooting and see what happens!

[CCWLearner]

I use bronze bore brushes and zinc-coated brass jags on the barrels of my P-07's.  After a range trip, I soak them in a jar of Hoppes #9 bore solvent for many hours, usually overnight, to help remove carbon and copper fouling.  My barrels are in pretty decent shape, each having a few thousand rounds through them.  I have an inexpensive bore scope I ordered off of Amazon to check my cleaning work and the condition of the bores.

Personally I think the nylon bore brush that comes with the P-07, and nylon bore brushes in general, are bordering on worthless.  I have some and will occasionally use them when the barrel has Hoppes solvent or some other copper remover that will react to bronze brushes.  They really don't do much, compared to a bronze brush.  On the other hand, the slotted bore cleaning rod that comes with the P-07 works just fine with patch cloths.  It's not a jag but it works.  I also use mine to retrieve my barrels out of a jar of Hoppes solvent.

I have removed my extractors and cleaned behind them on both pistols, but I wouldn't bother with that until you have at least 1-2K rounds though it.  One thing to keep in mind is that you don't want any wet lube in there as it will goop it up more quickly.  Spraying it out with brake cleaner or similar is probably not a bad idea, but it isn't going to get all of the goop out.  When I have removed the extractors in the past, to clean them and the extractor channel, I have spent quite a bit of time and effort removing the carbon / powder deposits out of there.

I never had any out-of-battery issues with my P-07's.  I can induce light strikes with Russian ammo using my CGW 15 lb hammer spring, and I can cause a failure-to-eject by dropping the mag and firing the round in the chamber, but otherwise my guns run flawlessly no matter what.  Well I also found a compatibility issue with one obscure type of ammo.  Really though these guns are solid performers overall.

[M1A4ME]

I forgot to mention, the only time I don't use a brass bore brush is when using the Bore Tech copper fouling remover.  The label says that stuff will "eat" up the brass brush and the recommend nylon brushes when using that bore cleaner.

But, other than that I'm with CCWLearner.  Nylon brushes just don't seem to get the crud broken loose nearly as quickly as a good brass brush.

[1911P07]

I mentioned something earlier and wanted to be clear about it if possible. Is the extractor pin on the p07 staked from the factory? If so, will removing it (in the future) mean I would have to find some way to restake it upon reassembly? Thanks for any advice.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I mentioned something earlier and wanted to be clear about it if possible. Is the extractor pin on the p07 staked from the factory? If so, will removing it (in the future) mean I would have to find some way to restake it upon reassembly? Thanks for any advice.

It is lightly staked from the bottom of the slide. If you remove it you must lightly re-stake it. All that is needed is to give the hole a little wack off center with a punch after the pin is installed. It's no big deal at all. 

[Wobbly]

I give up trying to post a pic for now.

When in doubt, read the instructions..... HERE.

[1911P07]

I mentioned something earlier and wanted to be clear about it if possible. Is the extractor pin on the p07 staked from the factory? If so, will removing it (in the future) mean I would have to find some way to restake it upon reassembly? Thanks for any advice.

It is lightly staked from the bottom of the slide. If you remove it you must lightly re-stake it. All that is needed is to give the hole a little wack off center with a punch after the pin is installed. It's no big deal at all.

So hold the punch at an angle with the tip of the punch in the roll pin hole and whack or place the punch on one of the sides of the roll pin straight up and down and whack?

[1911P07]

I give up trying to post a pic for now.

When in doubt, read the instructions..... HERE.

Thank you for the link but I have already been there and before going there had attempted google pics then did some research and read that IMGUR is not what it used to be for photo storage. I then had to go to work. Good story, I know.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

So hold the punch at an angle with the tip of the punch in the roll pin hole and whack or place the punch on one of the sides of the roll pin straight up and down and whack?

First of all it is a solid pin not a roll pin. Just peen the edge of the pin hole over so the pin can't work it's way out. If you look at the pin from the underside of the slide you will see exactly how it looks from the factory. It does not take much.

[1911P07]

First of all it is a solid pin not a roll pin. Just peen the edge of the pin hole over so the pin can't work it's way out. If you look at the pin from the underside of the slide you will see exactly how it looks from the factory. It does not take much.

Gotcha. So that explains the “marring” on underside of slide I was slightly concerned about (mostly because I watched a YouTube video on disassembly and the guy in the videos slide looked fine.) thanks for the help!

[Earl Keese]

The mag rattle is normal. Remove the barrel, clean it, and plunk test your ammo. Each round should fall into the chamber, spin freely and fall back out when the barrel is tipped over. If it doesn't, out of spec ammo is the likely culprit.

[1911P07]

Ok, so after a lot of thought and inspection of my p07 I have a theory as to what the issue was. I now believe it was a failure to fire because it would have been painfully obvious from the rear if my slide was out of battery even a little bit. I may be completely off base with this so don’t beat me up too badly. While examining the trigger and slide with the slide removed from the frame, I watched the piece that raises up to press on the firing pin safety block in both DA and SA (protecting the hammer from striking the frame of course). I noticed that it is technically possible (i think) to release the hammer with a trigger pull before that piece is at its fully raised position. It does not reach fully raised position until the trigger is pulled all the way back. Now the difference between the max height and the height at hammer release is pretty small. I have read a couple people on the internet say they had FTF issues in single action but not DA. My theory is maybe I was pulling the trigger very slowly (sometimes I do this)and maybe didn’t pull it all the way back, releasing the hammer but not depressing the safety block enough to release the firing pin. This would happen more often in SA than DA because the force required to pull the DA trigger to breaking point would carry the trigger all the way back after the shot breaks. Again, I could be completely wrong about this but I thought it was at least interesting enough to post.