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Offline M1A4ME

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Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« on: April 28, 2023, 01:33:04 PM »
I saw pictures of one with an upswept beavertail, like the SAO pistols.  It has a single left side thumb safety.  The slide is marked CZ75B.  The serial numbers on the slide, barrel and frame all match.

Ring hammer, pinned front sight.

Just looked wierd/different with the upswept beavertail.

Curious about it.  Anyone else have one, seen one?
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2023, 02:13:05 PM »
I have one...a CZ 75B Omega with upswept beavertail, ring hammer but double-sided decocker (2017).

The instruction manual says that there was also a version with a safety.
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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2023, 02:24:46 PM »
Oh, that could be it.  Didn't notice the omega symbol but it was the upswept beavertail without the rails on the slide and the lack of a right side safety that caught my attention.

Thanks for the info.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2023, 04:24:43 PM »
I believe the CZ 75B stainless were done with the upswept beavertails.                                     
                                                                                                                                         
     

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2023, 08:29:40 PM »
A CZ85.  That's the one that catches my attention.
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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2023, 09:22:35 PM »
A lefty here, so ambi safeties get my attention. I can't say that I've noticed any difference in how the two pistols feel in my hand though.

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2023, 01:23:11 PM »
My stainless 75b has a upswept bevertail.

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2023, 01:20:27 PM »
Well, went up and took a look at it this morning.

Looked like the pictures.  It's an Omega model CZ75B with a date of "14" on the slide.  So, 2014.  I didn't even know they were making those then. 

All the models I've seen at gun shows (and paid attention to) were the Urban Gray models which are the later convertible Omega pistols. 

I'd heard/read on the internet about people having the decocker only CZ75 Omega pistols but the thumb safety model was a surprise for me.

They let me pull the slide off and it looks "omega" inside, mostly.  I'd have to get it side by side with the P01 Omega to say what the differences are.

Still in the box with two magazines.  Dark black parkerized looking finish.  Almost as dull black as the powder residue Winchester white box leaves on my 9MM AR carbine.  Smoked black look.

Anyway, I put it on layaway (in VA you can't buy more than one handgun a month unless you have a concealed carry permit.  I do, but when I pulled it out of the plastic sleeve in my wallet a lot of the ink stayed on the plastic sleeve and the license wasn't legible.  Left the pistol there (hated to to that) and drove to the courthouse to fill out the paperwork for a replacement CCP.  I should get it in a few days in the mail the nice lady told me.  $505 with my military discount.

It was so neglected and dry and so mark/wear free on the surface I'm not sure if it's every been fired by whoever bought it first.  Pictures when I can pick it up.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2023, 06:36:15 PM »
Congrats
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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2023, 07:36:03 AM »
It is a crying shame that CZ did not update the B and put a beavertail on it. 

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2023, 10:03:53 AM »
That's a good point.  With no more SS, SAO CZ75's being made what is the machinery being used for that made the upswept  beaver tail frames being used for?
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2023, 07:11:15 AM »
That's a good point.  With no more SS, SAO CZ75's being made what is the machinery being used for that made the upswept  beaver tail frames being used for?

Dumb and dumber.  CZ UB just doesn't capitalize on what they have very well.  e.g. - why turn out retro guns with "B" serrations in the slide?  Doh!  They HAVE the tooling to cut PreB cuts in the slide - just look at the P01!  DUMB!  P01 cuts are much better and should be put on all guns anyway.  They charge a premium for Retros so put the P01 serrations on them already!

Why not use 1911 style FP retainers like the PreB?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2023, 06:54:57 PM »
Finally got my replacement CCP in the mail yesterday.  Drove up to the gun/sports store this morning and picked it up.  They had some trouble finding it for awhile but finally found it there in the back, somewhere.

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See how dull the finish is?  I suppose it could be a dull/flat polycoat finish.  The 2nd magazine is perfect.  No marks.  The one in the gun has scratches/wear marks from the magazine release where they keep removing the magazine and putting it back in.  The Omega symbol is on the end of the script on the slide.  Unlike the P01 Omegas.



Finish is about perfect, whatever it is.  I was hoping a coat of oil, wiped off, would shine it up some, but no dice.



All the goodies are under the foam except the cleaning rod.  It was under the foam on the pistol side.



You can see how dry/clean the inside is.  No powder residue at all (none got on my fingers, I didn't clean it, I just looked at it and lubed it up).  Barely a mark on the top of the firing pin block lifting arm.



Never seen a CZ75 frame rail like this.  Looks/feels like a worn saw blade on the inside.  Not on the outside or top, but on the inside where you can't see it till you take the slide off.  Only on this one side.  Nope, not complaining to CZ or asking to send it back.  The gun is 10 years old next year and they haven't made them in about 8 years.  I'll keep it like it is.



I've not seen a barrel with this dull finish on it either.  Can't say what it is.  Doesn't have the usual wear "ring" on the top/sides at the front from the barrel bushing.



Target page in the box says it shot a 63mm 5 shot group at 25 meters with S&B ammo.  About 2.5" seems pretty good for a stock pistol with off the shelf ball ammo.

Trigger is pretty bad.  I tried to take pics of the sear movement between "at rest" and where it stops just before it breaks and drops the hammer.  Could not get the camera to focus so as to supply nice blur free images.  That's SA.  DA is either get that trigger finger working out with weights or just use two fingers.  I don't DA shoot anyway, but that SA is either the worst CZ SA trigger I've pulled or the second worst. 

Not sure, yet, if I'm even going to shoot it.  Got others to carry/shoot (P07, P01 Omega, Shield/Shield Plus, etc.)  It will probably just stay in the box and go in the safe.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2023, 08:53:08 AM »
Very nice find. I'm afraid I  wouldn't have needed to to look twice for It would have followed me home on the first visit. With my luck someone would be paying for it when I returned with my mind made up that I needed it. I have that dilemma with a Colt in 38 supper that was presented to me when I I picked up the TS2 40S&W. It's not on any bucket list. BUT!!
Nice find.

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Re: Did CZ make CZ75B's with an upswept beavertail?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2023, 02:25:08 PM »
Hehe…beaver tail