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Offline Evolusean

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New Shadow 2 Compact
« on: August 21, 2023, 03:23:44 AM »
https://youtu.be/tmBPh4Gjj_g?si=G7CifAD4-WEId56U

Couldn’t find a post about it.

What for? What’s the idea behind it?

Offline BBF97

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2023, 06:45:14 AM »
Offered as everyday carry. Aluminum frame for weight and optics ready

Offline PA USPSA

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2023, 07:15:55 AM »
Without a firing pin block I wouldn't carry it as EDC.  It's too small and light to be a race gun, so I don't know what the purpose of this gun is.
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Offline sil7z

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2023, 07:51:50 AM »
In Europe it's commonly mandatory to concealed carry semi-auto pistols with the chamber empty, so this lack of FPB may not be an issue.

Offline crager67

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2023, 11:08:51 AM »

Offline rbuzz00

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2023, 12:29:17 PM »
Here's a link to the official CZ introduction of the Shadow 2 Compact.

Cool graphics and specifications.

https://shadow2.czub.cz/?utm_source=press_release&utm_medium=web_row&utm_campaign=Shadow2Compact&utm_id=Shadow2Compact



Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2023, 04:19:34 PM »
Without a firing pin block I wouldn't carry it as EDC.  It's too small and light to be a race gun, so I don't know what the purpose of this gun is.
Many people still safely carrying 1911's without fpb's.  The gun does have a safety notch (half cock) on the hammer but it's up to the individual to decide their own comfort level. If it takes standard CZ compact mags and if standard CZ compact rubber grips will fit it then I may well be interested in one.

Offline Tanners Owner

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2023, 07:26:51 PM »
I’m curious how this competes with the DWX compact.  I might be interested in either for my IDPA games….might be
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Offline vern56

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2023, 09:53:12 AM »
Kinda curious about it.
Are magazines and grips interchangeable (from the full size shadow 2)?

Offline rbuzz00

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2023, 10:26:14 AM »
From the information on one of the videos I watched, the grips on the Shadow2 Compact are specifically made for the Compact and are not interchangeable with anything.

As far as the magazines, can't say for certain, but I'd be willing to bet that the full size magazines from the Shadow 2 would fit, although you might run into some problems with over insertion of the mags since they would naturally be longer and you couldn't rely on the mag to be stopped from going in too far since it doesn't contact the grip. Just speculation on my part on this.

Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2023, 02:49:48 PM »
I'll investigate parts interchangeability further once the guns hit the shelves. If the mags and grips don't interchange then that'll be a deal breaker for me.

Offline Whereisit

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2023, 03:06:34 PM »
So is it drop safe? Is it suitable as a edc?

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Offline AZ_GunGuy

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2023, 03:10:54 PM »
Has anyone confirmed that it doesn't have a firing pin block or are we just assuming the internals are the same as the full size S2?
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Offline Psyop96

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New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2023, 03:38:01 PM »
Someone previously mentioned about some EU countries having rules against concealed carry/EDC with a round in the chamber as to why an FPB might be irrelevant. There’s no such rule in the Czech Republic to begin with but that’s not even why there’s no FPB in this model.

The CZ PR folks need to get ahead of the game about why the complete design here results in a drop safe pistol from X height without the need for the FPB as in their other models with the hammer in at a minimum, the safety notch due to the weights of the gun, main spring, recoil  spring, firing pin design and firing pin spring as a total package. 

Had a chance to handle the Shadow 2 Compact today and it feels quite robust and solid in the hands. It’s been a while since I handled the Shadowline Compact which also uses an alloy frame but I could sense the extra weight and heavier front end (it’s longer). Very nice, crisp DA and short reset in a smooth trigger. The operation of the safety felt just like that in the Shadowline Compact and in the steel-frame P-01 and in overall respects, a much superior and refined feel compared to the other two compacts.

Attaching a photo of the discontinued Shadowline Compact for general reference and comparison.





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Offline no.vale.la.pena

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Re: New Shadow 2 Compact
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2023, 04:02:53 PM »
Has anyone confirmed that it doesn't have a firing pin block or are we just assuming the internals are the same as the full size S2?

Not full confirmation but if you watch the ANR design video closely they remove the slide and there doesn’t appear to be a traditional CZ FPB

Very underwhelmed by this release as well, My reasons:
1. carry centric gun without a FPB (mentioned lots)
2. Optics mounting system that doesn’t retain the iron sight, they should have just had it set up for the Shield RMS/Holosun K footprint in front of the irons, then people could use plates for other optics if desired..
3. Aluminum frame. why not steel? the P01 already exists why not do something different especially since railed, steel frame compacts are hard to come by.

Disappointing overall since I am a fan of the shadow 2 grip style and front and back strap checkering.

Seems they are just banking on selling these based on the shadow 2 name, which I’m sure will work well for them based on the s2’s popularity.