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Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« on: October 05, 2023, 07:24:55 PM »
Hello, my first time posting here and new CZ owner. I just bought a BNIB P01 and only cycled the slide a few times (never fired) and noticed wear on the slide rail. I can actually see bear metal !! Is this normal for CZ ?? Should I be concerned ?? Also, the factory mags loaded like trash and the decocker seems to push in from the right side with my finger rather easy. What gives ?? The gun is beautiful but to see all this is making me twice ?? Btw, I own several guns from different makers and have been shooting for decades and this is the first time I’m experiencing this 🙉 thank you for your time and any advice.

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2023, 05:00:10 AM »
None of my CZ's ever had any finish on the rails to begin with so they were bare not bear metal from the factory. Everything you describe seems normal but if you think you have an issue the best thing to do is call CZ-USA and see what they say. 800-455-4486.

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2023, 06:30:54 AM »
Thank you for the response. I’ve never had the gun broken down, the wear is in the exposed rail underneath the Muzzle and it’s only on the right side of the gun not left. So it not just wear but uneven wear at that 🙉

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2023, 06:36:17 AM »
I have Beretta, Browning, CZ, Colt, S&W/M&P, FN, SIG, Glock and maybe some brands I just don't remember this time of the morning.

None of them will shoot with a CZ.  Finish wear on the rails, the inside of the slide, the hammer channel in the back of the slide?  I don't really care.  I know I'm more apt to hit what I'm aiming at with a CZ than any of the other brands.

Field strip it.  Clean it (even a new gun should be cleaned), lube it up and shoot it.  You'll like it just fine.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2023, 08:21:56 AM »
Thank you for the response. I’ve never had the gun broken down, the wear is in the exposed rail underneath the Muzzle and it’s only on the right side of the gun not left. So it not just wear but uneven wear at that 🙉
As I stated above if you think you have an issue call CZ-USA at the number I posted. They are the only ones who can help you. Otherwise as was also suggested clean the gun and go shoot it and see how it functions.

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2023, 08:25:26 AM »
As I stated above if you think you have an issue call CZ-USA at the number I posted. They are the only ones who can help you. Otherwise as was also suggested clean the gun and go shoot it and see how it functions.

Otherwise as was also suggested clean the gun, apply oil to the rails and go shoot it and see how it functions.

As state in the FAQ Section, some CZ's may require up to 500 rounds for "break in".
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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2023, 12:13:06 PM »
Thank you all for the responses 😜 I always clean and lube my new guns before I shoot them. I just find it odd that just racking the slide a few times that the finish not only wore off but wore off on one side only. The gun is brand new and in my mind shouldn’t wear that fast and that easy ?? Just wanted know if anyone else had issue like this ?? I’ve seen on YouTube the issue with the Decocker walking out of battery 🙉 I hope this isn’t going to be an issues as well ?? Thank you again

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2023, 01:24:51 PM »
Thank you all for the responses 😜 I always clean and lube my new guns before I shoot them. I just find it odd that just racking the slide a few times that the finish not only wore off but wore off on one side only. The gun is brand new and in my mind shouldn’t wear that fast and that easy ?? Just wanted know if anyone else had issue like this ??

Please explain how 2 finely machined parts would run against each other with this coating in place. It can't happen. Therefore the coating cannot be on the rails and have the gun operate. It's a non-issue.

I’ve seen on YouTube the issue with the Decocker walking out of battery 🙉 I hope this isn’t going to be an issues as well ?? Thank you again.

Being on YouTube does not make anything an "issue". Often times, things like this are posted by other brands simply to disparage a brand and discourage potential buyers.
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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2023, 02:55:14 PM »
About 4 or 5 years ago, maybe more, some of the P01 Omega pistol had issues with the decockers moving out of the frame.

Never heard of the standard P01 decocker pistols having that issue.

The internal parts are different in the Omega pistols and the decockers and safeties can be removed/switched.  The standard P01 is a decocker from the day they make the frame and start putting the parts in it.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2023, 04:15:51 PM »
M1A4ME is right. It's sounding more and more like you bought a non-Omega pistol.
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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2023, 05:27:52 PM »
My gun is not an Omega,does it make a difference?? And I know at some point in time finish wear does occur !! Like I said before wear without shooting it ?? And uneven at that ?? I thank you for all responses and trying to help.also, I saw several videos in reference to the decocker. The day I bought the gun, the guy who did a safety check at the gun shop who’s been there for awhile opened the box saw the gun and after Mekong sure it was as safe, checked to decocker and made a comment to keep an eye on it in case it walks on me ?? I found that odd then went home and sure enough found videos in reference to. Btw, that day I called CZ and they told me that they’ve had issues In The past in reference to the decocker walking out and to shoot it and if there was an issue to send it back !! My thought was I just bought this gun an hour ago and already there might be an issue ?? I love this gun and want it to be work flawlessly and be Bad Ass !! I’m not knocking it and came here to ask opinions on what I’ve found !! So info and opinions is all I’m looking for I’m not trying to upset people 😜 God Bless you guys and thank you 🙏

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2023, 06:22:24 PM »
My gun is not an Omega,does it make a difference?? And I know at some point in time finish wear does occur !! Like I said before wear without shooting it ?? And uneven at that ?? I thank you for all responses and trying to help.also, I saw several videos in reference to the decocker. The day I bought the gun, the guy who did a safety check at the gun shop who’s been there for awhile opened the box saw the gun and after Mekong sure it was as safe, checked to decocker and made a comment to keep an eye on it in case it walks on me ?? I found that odd then went home and sure enough found videos in reference to. Btw, that day I called CZ and they told me that they’ve had issues In The past in reference to the decocker walking out and to shoot it and if there was an issue to send it back !! My thought was I just bought this gun an hour ago and already there might be an issue ?? I love this gun and want it to be work flawlessly and be Bad Ass !! I’m not knocking it and came here to ask opinions on what I’ve found !! So info and opinions is all I’m looking for I’m not trying to upset people 😜 God Bless you guys and thank you 🙏
You've gotten opinions from people who have been here for quite some time and have vast experience with CZ's yet you continue to cite nonsense YT vids and now you add even more layers to the story with the I called CZ and the guy at the gun shop said stuff which you some how failed to mention at the start.
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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2023, 06:29:06 PM »
I took out a few of mine.

PCR- it had a black coating on the sides when I first got it. After 600 rounds some of that is worn off and bare metal is showing. Both sides worn evenly and never had a malfunction.

PO1- this one is brand new and never been shot. The sides of the slide are coated, no metal showing. I racked the slide a few times and nothing changed.

SP-01 w/decocker. 500 rounds. Sides are showing metal, even wear on both sides. Never had a malfunction.

SP-01 urban grey w/decocker - I bought this used previous owner said very low round count. Exterior looks brand new and looks well taken care of. The sides are showing metal but even wear on both sides.

The decocker issue I've only ever heard about in regards to the omega. Doesn't mean there won't ever be an issue with a non omega. The gun shop employee made a comment and now  it's in your head. Best way to go about this is shoot it. See what it does.


People on any brand of any item can get a bit defensive depending on the wording of the OP.

"mags load like trash"... "has me thinking twice." What does that even mean? You aren't saying what it's  actually doing for us to even help. When I read posts of this kind I automatically start thinking this person is trying to get a rise out of the members.

If the gun has you "thinking twice"... Sell it now. Why own something that is giving you doubts. Why even post about it? Just get rid of it. I personally don't own any gun that I'm not comfortable with.. Range toys included.
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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2023, 06:36:26 PM »
I checked the decocker on my pcr and po1. They both have a slight movement if you press in from the right side. It does not feel like anything is about to walk out. Feels pretty normal imo.

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Re: Brand new P-01 Finish wear on rail, plz help ??
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2023, 07:01:59 PM »
I checked the decocker on my pcr and po1. They both have a slight movement if you press in from the right side. It does not feel like anything is about to walk out. Feels pretty normal imo.
Yes this is exactly right. The decocker is held in place by the simple tail of a spring and it will go nowhere. I own 3 decocker CZ's and they are all the same. You can also get the same movement from the safety lever on non-decockers by pushing the shaft back and forth. This is perfectly normal.