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Offline Benasaki

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P-10S Barrel Type
« on: January 21, 2024, 08:44:08 PM »
Can anyone confirm the US made P-10S barrels are not cold hammer forged?   It’s curiously omitted from CZs website.   For what it’s worth I have the plain, non-optic ready S model.    If they do not, how much are we giving up realistically?   This is my 3rd CZ pistol and I assumed they all had them.   Thanks in advance.

Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: P-10S Barrel Type
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2024, 10:33:14 PM »
It is widely known that the US made P10 models were not chf barrels. This has become a point of contention that is born of internet lore and nothing else. The guns are accurate, reliable and robust just a anything else. Many guns have barrels that are not cold hammer forged and they have a very long service life. The gun will likely out live most users. I'm personally happy with the fact that CZ DID NOT go with polygonal rifling as I still cast alot of my own bullets and cast bullets are a no no in polygonal barrels.

Offline Joe L

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Re: P-10S Barrel Type
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2024, 06:10:45 AM »
Can anyone confirm the US made P-10S barrels are not cold hammer forged?   
I have more rounds through a US made P-10S at long distances than anyone else wants to shoot and the barrel bore is fine, however they are made.  I have three P-10 pistols and three P-07/09 pistols and have not noticed any difference in the barrel bore performance regardless of where they were made.  Many thousands of rounds, mostly at 100-200 yards over the last 5 years.  I'll die before the barrels are done. 

The last thought in my mind after shooting a few sub 6" groups at 100 yards with the 3.5" US barrel P-10S is "I wonder if these could have been 5" if I had the Czech hammer forged barrel?"  I worry a lot more about whether to clean it or not, "if I clean it, will I ruin it?".

The only reason I've looked at any aftermarket barrels is to get a tighter fit at the chamber end between the front block and the slide.  I have seen some variation there but even then I think the variation may be in the locking blocks rather than the barrels.  And the variations there are certainly within the limits of good practice for a service pistol on every CZ I have owned.  Tighter is better only for shooting at 100-200 yards from a rest.  I want it so tight that the gun is too tight for a service pistol as far as cycling reliability in the cold or when dirty. 

In other words, I don't worry about the difference between a US and a Czech barrel.  My eyesight and mental attitude on any given day is a much greater concern. 

Maybe take a look at this video from 3 months ago and tell me if I should give a Czech barrel any consideration over the US factory barrel in this pistol. 

https://youtu.be/F-pQi0UUzRA?si=P7t7pcKBke597NIo

Joe L
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Offline Joe L

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Re: P-10S Barrel Type
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2024, 06:38:10 AM »
I found a good video from three years ago at 100 yards with my US P-10S for reference. 

https://youtu.be/_xtd-SVs9JE?si=BXH_GY5Vcep8k4Dc

US barrel is still fine. 

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