Beretta 92FS

[Diman]

The Italian Beretta 92 pistol is one of the most popular and iconic. The original and reliable design, excellent technical characteristics and a long track record have elevated the Model 92 to the rank of a weapon that will forever remain in history.When I was in Italy https://en.veles-club.com/projects/italy/, I managed to shoot a Beretta 92FS at a firing range, a 15-round magazine.Despite the fact that this pistol was recognized as the best in the testing process, the US Army demanded some improvements. As a result, the 92F model appeared, which received some minor changes: the safety bracket was adapted for shooting with both hands; for ease of grip, the front surface of the handle was bent backwards and the magazine cover was provided with a palm rest protruding forward. The cheeks of the handle have also changed somewhat, a new cord ring has appeared, the barrel has become chrome–plated, and all external surfaces have been covered with bruniton - a protective coating of the Teflon type.
The disadvantage is the large mass — the model 92 weighs 950 grams, which is significantly more than its competitors. For example, the Glock 17 weighs 625 grams.

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The Italian Beretta 92 pistol is one of the most popular and iconic. The original and reliable design, excellent technical characteristics and a long track record have elevated the Model 92 to the rank of a weapon that will forever remain in history.When I was in Italy https://en.veles-club.com/projects/italy/, I managed to shoot a Beretta 92FS at a firing range, a 15-round magazine.Despite the fact that this pistol was recognized as the best in the testing process, the US Army demanded some improvements. As a result, the 92F model appeared, which received some minor changes: the safety bracket was adapted for shooting with both hands; for ease of grip, the front surface of the handle was bent backwards and the magazine cover was provided with a palm rest protruding forward. The cheeks of the handle have also changed somewhat, a new cord ring has appeared, the barrel has become chrome–plated, and all external surfaces have been covered with bruniton - a protective coating of the Teflon type.
The disadvantage is the large mass — the model 92 weighs 950 grams, which is significantly more than its competitors. For example, the Glock 17 weighs 625 grams.

Well aside from the history of the Beretta which most of us already know the Glock 17 is no competitor for the 92FS being a polymer framed striker fired pistol. The best comparison here would be the full size CZ-75B/BD or the Sig Sauer P226 both of which are comparable in size and heft and also being hammer fired DA/SA action pistols.

[crosstimbers]

The Italian Beretta 92 pistol is one of the most popular and iconic. The original and reliable design, excellent technical characteristics and a long track record have elevated the Model 92 to the rank of a weapon that will forever remain in history.When I was in Italy https://en.veles-club.com/projects/italy/, I managed to shoot a Beretta 92FS at a firing range, a 15-round magazine.Despite the fact that this pistol was recognized as the best in the testing process, the US Army demanded some improvements. As a result, the 92F model appeared, which received some minor changes: the safety bracket was adapted for shooting with both hands; for ease of grip, the front surface of the handle was bent backwards and the magazine cover was provided with a palm rest protruding forward. The cheeks of the handle have also changed somewhat, a new cord ring has appeared, the barrel has become chrome–plated, and all external surfaces have been covered with bruniton - a protective coating of the Teflon type.
The disadvantage is the large mass — the model 92 weighs 950 grams, which is significantly more than its competitors. For example, the Glock 17 weighs 625 grams.

Well aside from the history of the Beretta which most of us already know the Glock 17 is no competitor for the 92FS being a polymer framed striker fired pistol. The best comparison here would be the full size CZ-75B/BD or the Sig Sauer P226 both of which are comparable in size and heft and also being hammer fired DA/SA action pistols.

If I recall correctly, the 226 actually did as well as the Beretta in many respects. But, the Beretta was cheaper $$$ low bid wins again.

That's drawing from way-back memory and who knows if whatever I read back then was factual or not. But I do know that price plays as much or more of a role in any government test/evaluate/purchase decisions as anything else.

[david s]

I have always liked the Beretta 92 series pistols. They just look "cool" to me. My second or third pistol purchase was a model 92S and I really liked it even though I'm a lefty. I've had at least four of them, the original 92S (only gun that I've had stolen) a 1990's vintage FS (sold it off) and currently a stainless 92FS and another 92S. They are really large handguns when you remember that there chambered in 9mm. The 15 round magazine count isn't all that impressive in today's world either. But they have always been dead bang reliable and for myself they have a serious cool factor going on.

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[crosstimbers]

I have always liked the Beretta 92 series pistols. They just look "cool" to me. My second or third pistol purchase was a model 92S and I really liked it even though I'm a lefty. I've had at least four of them, the original 92S (only gun that I've had stolen) a 1990's vintage FS (sold it off) and currently a stainless 92FS and another 92S. They are really large handguns when you remember that there chambered in 9mm. The 15 round magazine count isn't all that impressive in today's world either. But they have always been dead bang reliable and for myself they have a serious cool factor going on.

We differ in what we like. I have a 92FS, because it was willed to me. It, along with a few other items constitute firearms I would have never bought, but do not feel good about selling as they were family guns. To me a Beretta 92+- is a very non-ergonomic and clumsy weapon. But, thats just personal preference and I know it.

By the same token there were a few well-remembered items that I wish had come my way, but were traded/sold off including a humpback Browning shotgun (Okay I do have the Rem 1100 that replaced it) and a gold-receiver winchester 94 in 32 win. special. Dont even get me started about handguns....A Colt Diamondback and others were traded off as members of my family felt a certain way about firearms purchases. Cheaper was better and bargain store brand was always "just as good"....and in a few cases it was- but mostly not.

Anyways, I remember when the Beretta was adopted, or was being adopted...generally negative feelings in the Army among the servicemen I served with and (at the time) a feeling of it wasn't really going to happen. Followed by a "well, we haven't bought anything from Italy in a long time" after it was announced officially.

To me, there wasn't anything wrong with what the Beretta replaced. If the old stocks of 1911s were worn out, the Sig was a better choice to replace them. But, I was out of that uniform and in another by the time all that happened, and carrying a revolver for a number of years. Never felt poorly armed by that. Then carried a 1911 for a long time before being forced to carry a Tupperware offering for a time til i retired. And so it went.

But to each his own 

[david s]

The 92's grip is rather large. I currently have a Glock 48 with the Sheild magazine conversion also with a 15-round count, and its grip size is what the Berettas should have about been. Not being overly large I wear medium size gloves and my trigger finger rest just on the last half of the fingertip when on the trigger but it's still manageable. Double action pull is smooth and single actions pretty good also. Safety sweeps upward with my thumb without problems. And it points well for me. My first handgun was a Ruger Single Six with the 9 1/2-inch barrel followed in short order by a Ruger Super Blackhawk and the Berreta. I can't remember in what order I purchased the 44 and 9mm so the Beretta was either my first or second centerfire pistol. There is some nostalgia here. Beretta tried to address the size issue by offering the Vertec (?) straight gripped 92's and an 8 (?) shot single stack pistol but neither really satisfied the masses. About half a century on I still think the 92's look cool.

[crosstimbers]

You know several of us were at a gun show several years ago. I had always wondered what a Desert Eagle would feel like in my hand. I spied one on a table, and it was finished in shiny gold. I looked around to see if any of my friends were nearby, and picked the thing up. I was surprised by how it felt. It was big all right, but the trigger reach was just about what you are describing, on the far side but doable. Then one of my buds snuck up and caught me playing with the thing, and told me that now all I needed was a red felt hat and a gold tooth.

I wouldn't have bought it even if it had been more reasonably finished (and priced). But it was interesting that a handgun so large could feel manageable to me.

[WW Martin]

I have 2 Beretta 92's from  back in the 1990s.  Both residents of the safe , unfired. The 9mm that I was shooting at the time was a Browning Hipower . There's no comparing the way the 2 feels in the hand. The first I bought was a standard blue the second a SS 911 commemorative.
The only gun I've been asked where the feathers on the barrel were was a bright nickel  S&W M57 8 &3/8 . My brother in law accused me of turning pimp. One of the last pinned and recessed.

Bill

[Whereisit]

I've been wanting a 92 model for nostalgic reasons. I was around 10yo when my dad had one. It was one my favorites. I thought it was the coolest looking gun ever. It was one of those deals that's always on the list but never went for it....till last month. Found a 92d-xr in mint condition and for a very fair price. The seller even included a berreta threaded barrel. From my reading, this model is a bit rare. So I think it's going to be a safe queen.

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[bczrx]

I found the Beretta 92 too large for my hands and avoided them. UNTIL I got a great price on a NIB quality 92 G-SD.

then I did some research and made changes. The ones that helped the feel in my hand the most were the change to the thin G10 grips and the Wilson Combat trigger to shorten the reach [with the Langdon Tactical trigger bar and Wilson Beretta 92 hammer].


After the entire LTT trigger job in a bag changes, I REALLY like the way it feels.

However, I can't stand them un-altered. Just like a stock CZ just doesn't work for me. DA/SA ones need the widest CZ Custom safety for me to be able to engage/disengage it without rolling the pistol in my right hand. All of them need thinner grips and the CGW reach reduction trigger helps with trigger reach.

However, the 92 can feel so much different, if you do the work.


BTW, if none of you have held/fired a 92 with the full LTT trigger job in bag treatment, try one.

My takeup is light/no stacking to speak of, with crisp break- and so little reset it feels almost like my 1911.

The trigger only suffers compared to a 1911 on the takeup length from full trigger release. If you 'ride the reset', it is so close to a 1911 reset it is scary-cool.

The Czs I've tried which have been Cajunized feel great, but their reset is longer. I am talking about SP01, SP01Tactical, PCR.