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Offline DonB88

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How to refinish a frame and slide
« on: April 09, 2024, 05:24:30 PM »
The finish on my pre B 75 is well worn and needs to be redone. There are also scratches that need touching up. I have never "re-blued" another gun before. Do I have to take it apart to get to the frame, or can I just field strip it and deal with the exterior? Further, what product do I use? Birchwood Perma Blue, or some other product like I have seen on Brownell's? I don't want to screw this up, but I need to do something. Help, please.
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Re: How to refinish a frame and slide
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2024, 08:25:34 PM »
Any refinish is best done with complete disassembly. Its not too hard a task, lots of videos on you tube to take you step by step. Also a good time to refresh all the springs and any worn internal parts if needed.

Any refinish job is a learned skill and results will vary greatly depending on method and your personal skill, patience, and attention to detail.  My experience with cold blue products is they will not be very durable. Rust bluing is a durable finish but tons of variable may affect how the final product looks. Search this forum and you will find several threads detailing a rust blue refinish. By the time you gather everything you need to do a good job you will have made at least a small investment in $$ and will need to invest considerable time in doing the process.

Easiest is some sort of rattle can finish, not cheap and as with any method meticulous prep is 99% of the job. I have no clue how well this works.

https://www.brownells.com/tools-cleaning/paint-metal-prep/paint-finishing/duracoat-aerosol/?sku=100013668

If its a favorite pistol you want to keep forever consider having a local gunsmith do a refinish. A decent one color Ceracote is not terribly expensive and in the long run will give you a nice finish.

Good luck! And if you DIY it document your journey and post it.

Here are some pics of my adventure.  Did not come out perfect but works for me.

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Re: How to refinish a frame and slide
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2024, 07:44:03 AM »
...and as with any method meticulous prep is 99% of the job. 

That's the whole thing in a nutshell. 99% of the work is in the prep.


https://www.brownells.com/tools-cleaning/paint-metal-prep/paint-finishing/duracoat-aerosol/?sku=100013668

I've used some of the Brownells Aluma-Hyde in a rattle can. Then followed up by baking in the oven. I was (and still am) quite impressed. Of course I had to do this on a day the wife was gone and I could open all the doors and windows because there is a strong odor. But spring is upon us and those days are back.

I was working with brand new, bare metal parts. Of all the vendors, I'd trust Brownells finishes before anyone else.
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Re: How to refinish a frame and slide
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2024, 11:32:19 AM »
To really do it properly, it should be fully disassembled and thoroughly cleaned and de-greased. The key is to prep, prep and, when you think you're done, prep it some more.

If you're looking to re-blue small areas or parts, a cold blue will work. I prefer Brownell's Oxpho Blue. I do not recommend any cold blue for a complete gun refinish. It just doesn't hold up - despite what all the online videos say. For whole bluing, your only real choices are to rust blue it yourself, or send it out.

As for a painted finish, Ceracoat is by far the best. Aluma Hyde isn't bad, but my preference is Dura Coat. Not as hard as Ceracoat, but I can do it myself in my garage. The rattle cans are kind of expensive, with a limited amount of time to use once activated. I use the liquid and a cheap HF touchup gun.
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Re: How to refinish a frame and slide
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2024, 04:57:44 PM »
I havent done it myself, but apparently quite a few people have parkerized their own handguns. I don't know enough about it to recommend it, but it could be something to look into and do some research.
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Re: How to refinish a frame and slide
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2024, 06:37:20 PM »
The finish on my pre B 75 is well worn and needs to be redone. There are also scratches that need touching up. I have never "re-blued" another gun before. Do I have to take it apart to get to the frame, or can I just field strip it and deal with the exterior? Further, what product do I use? Birchwood Perma Blue, or some other product like I have seen on Brownell's? I don't want to screw this up, but I need to do something. Help, please.
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depends on how you want to refinish it.

if you want to "blue" then its all in the base/prep.  any scratch/nick/ding will show.  If you have ANY blued guns look at them.

If you want some type of "coating" then it wont be so important. 

if you want to try and do it yourself, go for it.  Noting you may not like the results or screw it up. 

whatever you do, readup on what info you can find and if there is a "fix" for screwing it up.

good luck