I bought one new for ~$250 with a green frame and didn't really plan on keeping it (just to try for that price). I fell in love with it and have kept it as my concealed piece. I ended up changing the trigger to Apex as I got some pinching, changing the sights to Night Fission (just like them better for visibility) and putting on some textured grip tape (self job) for improved grip. It's accurate and reliable. For range use I use it with a Hyve magazine basepad to get some extra "hold". It's a sleeper for sure.