Kimber’s new RAMI

[Earl Keese]

 I’ve been tempted to buy a small double stack 1911 recently…but then I remember I already have a RAMI. 
https://youtu.be/s39XxNJpPqo

[MeatAxe]

Unfortunately, the Kimber is SAO. What’s needed is an alloy frame hammer fired micro DA / SA, double stack or single stack.

An updated optics-ready Rami with a light rail would fit the bill.

[Earl Keese]

Unfortunately, the Kimber is SAO. What’s needed is an alloy frame hammer fired micro DA / SA, double stack or single stack.

An updated optics-ready Rami with a light rail would fit the bill.

I think DA/SA is what scared most people away from the RAMI. Mine is a D model, but I think an SAO RAMI with a flat trigger and a wide safety would be interesting.

[M1A4ME]

Might be a nice reliable accurate pistol.

How easy is to find the parts to upgrade it?

How easy to find the parts to maintain it?

I've heard a lot of bad stuff about Kimber reliability/quality over the years.  Is that a thing of the past?

I like the magazine/round count options.  Exactly like my Shield Plus.  What do the Kimber mags. cost and how easy is it to stock up on them?

The rail is nice.  The Shield Plus has no rail but uses the same lights/lasers as the Shield models.

I do like the ambidextrous controls.  No such options for the Shield Plus pistols.  Sooner or later that may be a small project for me to look at.

3.1" barrel is the same length as the standard Shield Plus but with the Plus you have the option of using the regular 4" Shield barrels/slides if you want a slightly longer barrel set up.

There are some CSX (M&P) owners on the forum I belong to but many of them are not happy with that pistol.  Reliability and accuracy issues, no OR models, lights/holsters availability, etc.  Up to this point I've never even thought of buying one just to see if it works.  It may be similar to the new Kimber but I don't think I'd buy one to try it out (the CSX I mean).

The metal frame thing is just a "fashion" gimmick.  Just like clothes, car body shapes, etc.  It's the new hot thing!  Oh, that's out of fashion, this is the new hot thing!  A few later that first hot thing that went out of fashion is once again, the new hot thing.  I didn't care for polymer frames when I was buying/trying Glocks, XDMs, the 1.0 M&Ps, etc.  But the P07 and P09 showed me accuracy issues were not due to the polymer frames.  It's not about what the frame is made from.  It's about reliability and accuracy.  And can I get repair parts or upgrade parts.

[Earl Keese]

Might be a nice reliable accurate pistol.

How easy is to find the parts to upgrade it?

How easy to find the parts to maintain it?

I've heard a lot of bad stuff about Kimber reliability/quality over the years.  Is that a thing of the past?

I like the magazine/round count options.  Exactly like my Shield Plus.  What do the Kimber mags. cost and how easy is it to stock up on them?

The rail is nice.  The Shield Plus has no rail but uses the same lights/lasers as the Shield models.

I do like the ambidextrous controls.  No such options for the Shield Plus pistols.  Sooner or later that may be a small project for me to look at.

3.1" barrel is the same length as the standard Shield Plus but with the Plus you have the option of using the regular 4" Shield barrels/slides if you want a slightly longer barrel set up.

There are some CSX (M&P) owners on the forum I belong to but many of them are not happy with that pistol.  Reliability and accuracy issues, no OR models, lights/holsters availability, etc.  Up to this point I've never even thought of buying one just to see if it works.  It may be similar to the new Kimber but I don't think I'd buy one to try it out (the CSX I mean).

The metal frame thing is just a "fashion" gimmick.  Just like clothes, car body shapes, etc.  It's the new hot thing!  Oh, that's out of fashion, this is the new hot thing!  A few later that first hot thing that went out of fashion is once again, the new hot thing.  I didn't care for polymer frames when I was buying/trying Glocks, XDMs, the 1.0 M&Ps, etc.  But the P07 and P09 showed me accuracy issues were not due to the polymer frames.  It's not about what the frame is made from.  It's about reliability and accuracy.  And can I get repair parts or upgrade parts.

I’m not advocating for Kimber, just pointing out similarities to a pistol CZ discontinued due to lack of sales.

[M1A4ME]

Earl, not trying to argue or anything else.

Just asking some questions that I'd be asking if I was getting an interest in one of them.  One of the reasons I bought that first P07 was the list of factory and upgrade parts available from CZ USA, CZ Custom and CGW.  I thought that was just awesome and it was a big plus on my check list.

S&W is doing the aluminum frame thing, too, but on the full sized guns for the most part.  Big jump in price on them vs. the regular models along with some build features (Performance Center) that usually cost more, too.

Again, sorry if it read like I was picking it apart.  Just pondering the things I usually do when thinking of buying a new gun.

[Gunnerdad80]

Nice gun. I wouldn’t mind test driving it, but I’m still a little skeptical of Kimber’s quality since their “SIG-like” micro 9’s. My sister-in-law bought a brand new Kimber micro 9 a few years back and right out of the box it wouldn’t cycle consistently. We tried different ammo and mags with similar results. Sent it back to Kimber twice and still no go. Oddly enough, I modified and fitted a guide rod and flat stock recoil spring from a SIG P238 and it runs great. Go figure.

Correction: The Kimber was a .380, not 9mm.

[M1A4ME]

Nice gun. I wouldn’t mind test driving it, but I’m still a little skeptical of Kimber’s quality since their “SIG-like” micro 9’s. My sister-in-law bought a brand new Kimber micro 9 a few years back and right out of the box it wouldn’t cycle consistently. We tried different ammo and mags with similar results. Sent it back to Kimber twice and still no go. Oddly enough, I modified and fitted a guide rod and flat stock recoil spring from a SIG P238 and it runs great. Go figure.

If we had a LIKE button I'd hit it.

I love it when people solve problems and share the fix and results.  Awesome.

[Gunnerdad80]

If we had a LIKE button I'd hit it.

I love it when people solve problems and share the fix and results.  Awesome.

[MeatAxe]

Nice gun. I wouldn’t mind test driving it, but I’m still a little skeptical of Kimber’s quality since their “SIG-like” micro 9’s. My sister-in-law bought a brand new Kimber micro 9 a few years back and right out of the box it wouldn’t cycle consistently. We tried different ammo and mags with similar results. Sent it back to Kimber twice and still no go. Oddly enough, I modified and fitted a guide rod and flat stock recoil spring from a SIG P238 and it runs great. Go figure.

If we had a LIKE button I'd hit it.

I love it when people solve problems and share the fix and results.  Awesome.

it would be even more awesomer if manufacturers like Kimber would practice good qc so that their pistols function reliably right out of the box.

I will say that as far as upsized Colt Mustang clones go, my Sig P938 has been very reliable and accurate.