75 pre B

[wgg]

Is the pre B trigger that much better than a 75 B?  I noticed a pre B 75 with the squared off trigger guard and a pinned in front sight.  It looked in good shape for its age.  They had it marked for $450.00.  I saw that it had been imported by C.A.I., should that be a concern.

[Born2vette]

Pre Bs do not have a firing pin block but that sounds like a transitional which may or may not have a FBP depending one when it was made. The lack of a FOB will generally make for a nicer trigger as will buying an old, well worn 75.

C.A.I. Was one of the original importers and there are lots of CZs out there they imported.   Does not affect anything and is not concerning.

Price wise, if its in good condition that sounds like a good price.  Beat up looking ones on GB (some of the best shooters IMHO) can be had for about $400 + fees, shipping and transfer as a comparison.

[briang2ad]

Short answer to your first question is no, not necessarily.  Typically, the FPB induces some creep and perhaps stacking, but sometimes even a PreB trigger can exhibit plenty of stacking and grittiness without the firing pin block. I have a transitional and a pre-B that both required a ton of work before the double action trigger got better. And because of the design of the CZ 75 trigger there is creep/travel before the break anyway, which many complain is a problem.  However, in both cases, my preB and transitional now have very smooth, trigger in double action and one of them is exceptional.  But it took work. I have picked up the type B guns that have had decent triggers out of the box.

Frankly, I don’t think the trigger on the CZ 75 is all that nice in terms of its feel, but all of them can be shot accurately because of the grip and design.

To me the biggest problem in the C 75 system is putting a deCocker on it, which was not designed to do originally. The deCocker generally introduces a ton of grit and stacking into the CZ 75 double action system in such a way that it really inhibits The double action. Most P01s and PCR’s suffer this out-of-the-box problem to a high degree and require a bunch of work and changes. If Cajun gun works was not around I would not own as many at all.

Also, the trigger return spring design is sometimes a problem because of the stresses put on it and you can get some bad ones that will result in broken trigger return springs in what I consider a premature lifespan.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

To me the biggest problem in the C 75 system is putting a deCocker on it, which was not designed to do originally. The deCocker generally introduces a ton of grit and stacking into the CZ 75 double action system in such a way that it really inhibits The double action. Most P01s and PCR’s suffer this out-of-the-box problem to a high degree and require a bunch of work and changes. If Cajun gun works was not around I would not own as many at all.

The decocker doesn't have DIDDLY SQUAT to do with anything in terms of trigger feel on a CZ. My decockers came out of the box no different than any safety model trigger out there. Some of my best otb CZ triggers are decockers.

[briang2ad]

To me the biggest problem in the C 75 system is putting a deCocker on it, which was not designed to do originally. The deCocker generally introduces a ton of grit and stacking into the CZ 75 double action system in such a way that it really inhibits The double action. Most P01s and PCR’s suffer this out-of-the-box problem to a high degree and require a bunch of work and changes. If Cajun gun works was not around I would not own as many at all.

The decocker doesn't have DIDDLY SQUAT to do with anything in terms of trigger feel on a CZ. My decockers came out of the box no different than any safety model trigger out there. Some of my best otb CZ triggers are decockers.

Your experience is different than mine. 

Every decocker gun I have ever handled had stacking and/or grit.  Not so with the safety guns.  You have experienced a different outcome.  What I experienced I relate to the complexity of the pistol FCG in a phenomenal sense - while the design per se MAY not necessarily lead to more grit and stacking, but it is experienced by yours truly.  Reading that back into the design as the cause is not warranted.

What IS different is the ease of a detail strip of the safety guns - which are simple and easy to work on - not so much with the decocker guns.  It is almost trivial to detail strip a safety gun and polish and reassemble. 

In general I guess that CZ triggers are a total crap shoot.  CGW has enabled them to be very competitive. 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Your experience is different than mine. 

Every decocker gun I have ever handled had stacking and/or grit.  Not so with the safety guns.  You have experienced a different outcome.  What I experienced I relate to the complexity of the pistol FCG in a phenomenal sense - while the design per se MAY not necessarily lead to more grit and stacking, but it is experienced by yours truly.  Reading that back into the design as the cause is not warranted.

What IS different is the ease of a detail strip of the safety guns - which are simple and easy to work on - not so much with the decocker guns.  It is almost trivial to detail strip a safety gun and polish and reassemble. 

In general I guess that CZ triggers are a total crap shoot.  CGW has enabled them to be very competitive.

Well what I read here in a nutshell is simply that you like working on the safety guns vs the decockers. That goes to your mechanical ability and tolerance for difficulty. I've done enough decockers now that they are almost boring and not even challenging anymore. I like them!

[M1A4ME]

I never shoot mine double action.

All mine are safety models and the Omegas have the safeties installed before I ever head to the range.

The very best thing I ever did to get a nice trigger on a CZ75 was to install a different hammer and sear (or modify the thumb safety cam on the left side safety shaft.)

I bought a couple of the spur style hammers CZ USA used to sell.  Don't know if they still make and sell those or not.

The CZ75 Compact required the safety cam be modified (won't be spending that much time/effort every again - having pulled the safety out 24 or 25 times to remove a bit more metal wasn't fun but the results are wonderful) to allow the safety to fully engage/work.  A 3 lb. SA trigger so crisp the trigger pull ga. makes a liar out of your trigger finger/brain that tells you with every trigger pull the trigger is well below 3 lbs.

On the second gun (CZ75B .40) I used the Cajun Gun Works adjustable sear and will take that route if I ever change out a CZ75B hammer in the future.  Same results.  Better feeling trigger than any other CZ I have (well, both guns are the same). 

Get a better hammer and an adjustable sear.  You'll be happy with the SA trigger pull.  Can't really say how much it will affect the DA trigger.