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Offline OUTLAWyr

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New CZ owner experience
« on: February 21, 2002, 01:31:20 PM »
I have been an occasional pistol shooter for about 12 years, but I always rented or used friend's handguns in the past.  I kept a 12ga Mossberg for home defense.  After 9/11 I asked my self why I was waiting to get my CCW and a good handgun.  Money is always an issue, but I decided that rather than get a new cell-phone/PDA, I'd get a gun instead.

I have always liked the feel of CZ clones and the Browning HPs that I have shot before.  Frankly, I hadn't considered buying a CZ because I thought the low price reflected E. European quality shortcomings.  A local gunsmith talked me out of the EAA/Tanfoglio, suggesting a CZ instead.  While I was in the market for a good concealable gun, I first wanted a full-size pistol for range shooting and home defense.  I've never liked 9mm (just personal preference), and I prefer the .40 or .45.

I had to order the CZ-75B in .40 (no local dealers had them in stock), and in the weeks after 9/11 I had a long wait (CZ shipped late via USPS and the post office was slow).  Price was $435.  I almost bought a CZ-40, but I am glad I didn't.  In the end, I picked the CZ-75 on the recommendation of other shooters, because it was very reasonably priced and because of the way it felt in my hand.  The CZ-75B fits my hand perfectly, and I am quite pleased with its performance so far.

Over the years, I have shot many 9mm, .40 and .45 handguns, along with a few revolvers.  Because I have never owned a handgun before, my experience has been limited so my impressions of each gun have been those of a newby - I have never "stuck with" a gun long enough to appreciate all its plusses and minuses.  That said, I have never liked Glocks - too light and jumpy, nor H&K USPs - not so accurate for me.  Berettas and Sigs are fine but expensive, as are most of the good 1911s.  Also, I simply hate the long trigger pull associated with first shot - double action guns - even DAOs.  Plus, I like the cocked and locked option combined with the DA option as is standard on many CZs.  Since the CZ has everything I wanted, I went with it.

Mine is polymer finished, and I clean inside and out every time I shoot it.  From the first day I shot it, I have been more accurate with it than I have with any other comparably-sized pistol (except, on occasion, at close ranges, my girlfriends $1100 compact Kimber Ultra Elite).

With my modest experience, I won't claim to be a great shot and so my numbers wouldn't impress anyone.  I usually practice at 7-10 yards and, using both hands to support the gun, I can put two magazines (20 rounds total) into the 9-10 ring of a decent-sized silhouette target.  Occasionally, I can do impressive groups.  I am improving.  The important thing is that I am better with the CZ than with other guns I have tried, even at this early date.  Also, a friend who absolutely loves his H&K USP picked up my CZ and shot way better with it immediately.

I have put at least 500 rounds through the gun so far - a mix of whatever inexpensive FMJ ammo the local range has in stock, as well as about 200 rounds of Federal 155 gr. HS2s.  I have experienced a few minor problems with the CZ, mostly related to the magazines, I think.  I have two factory 10-rd mags which came with the gun.  Getting ten rounds into them can be a bear.  Also, when full, it is sometimes difficult to insert the magazine far enough into the grip for the catch to engage.  I have had three failures to feed, where rounds have become stuck against the feed ramp (not easy to clear).  I am tempted to blame the magazine.  My GF had a stove-pipe, but she is of slight stature and occasionally has problems with semi-autos.  Other that that - no complaints.  The sights seem to be fine, though I am considering night sights.  Recently I put Hogue rubber wrap-around-front grips on the CZ and it feels even better.  Fitting them on properly took some effort, but they ended up perfect.  I had tried Pachmayr TZ grips - but they didnt fit the CZ.

I can see that the polymer coating may be vulnerable to scrapes and scratches, as another writer has indicated.  So far, mines fine.  It obviously is great against corrosion, and I like matte black.  I also worry that I cant adequately clean the tiny parts inside the slide, and theres more plastic inside the frame than Id like.  Like many other CZ owners, I wonder about the things I hear about barrel wear, slide cracks, slide stops, etc.  Who knows if these are problems unique to the CZ.  Still, its a very economical, ergonomically excellent and as accurate a gun as I could ask.  I am very partial to it.

Its too big (and heavy) for concealed carry, though.  I do carry it once in a while with a long coat and cheap Uncle Mikes synthetic belt holster.  But I notice the weight and bulge on my hip, and it wont be at all suitable come spring.  IWB holsters wont improve things much, I think.  So, I still need a nice compact for concealed carry.  I like the small Kimbers - but theres the cost issue.  I saw last year on the CZ-USA webpage that CZ was going to make a carry compact gun with melted corners.  Looked good to me - though it seems to have vanished from the page since then.

I will probably go with a Taurus 617T (titanium) with the 2 ported barrel.  Very light, compact, moderately-priced and powerful.  If CZ produces a carry-sized automatic in .40, of course Ill jump at it, though Id go with hotter ammo than the Federal 155s - probably Cor-Bon 135s.

All-in-all, Im a happy CZ owner.  If I had the money, Id buy the company and rush a carry gun and .357 Sig models into production.

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Walt-Sherrill

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New CZ owner experience
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2002, 12:19:11 PM »
Re: vulnerability of the polymer finish.

I don't like the looks of the finish, but have come to appreciate just how hardy it is.

If something scratches the polymer finish, it would have done far worse damage to a blued finish.  Only the Nickel finish seems more damage resistant.


cztops

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2002, 01:12:20 AM »
First, congratulations on getting your new CZ 75B .40!

I was wondering if you have had anymore malfunctions? Did the FTFs occur after the first shot on a full mag? Leaving the mags fully loaded should help take some of pressure out of them.

Concerning CCW, before I would consider carrying the 75B, I would make sure the problem(s) causing the FTFs were solved. Reliability is of number one importance.

If the reliability meets your standards, I would have you reconsider the 75B for carry. In Florida, I carry two 75Bs at all times. Both on my belt, one at 3:30 and one at 8:30. I have my spare magazine at about 10:00. I have grown accustomed to the weight and actually miss it when its not there. The most difficult thing about the weight is keeping my guns off the floor when sitting on a toilet. Trial and error practice at home will help. If you want my standard operating procedure, let me know.:)

I think the most important aspect to being comfortable when carrying is having a quality belt, holster, and mag pouch. You did not give the 75B a fair chance using a cheap, synthetic holster. A regular pants belt will not do, especially for a full size steel gun. A "double thick" gun belt is needed as the anchor. An IWB holster will conceal well, but bending forward will be limited or the gun will start to print. There are many quality holsters available for the 75B, just check out the holster forum here. Personally, I think leather will be more comfortable than kydex.

I usually wear jean shorts, tucked in white T-shirt, and a one size larger (loose fitting) untucked commercialized T-shirt. I have no problem concealing both 75Bs. You may not either.