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Offline Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...

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Kadet Kit on the P01
« on: December 14, 2007, 01:30:12 PM »
I have put about 1,000 rounds through my 22 Kadet kit so I thought I would share. The 22 Kadet conversion kit replaces the 9mm slide, recoil spring/guide, and barrel with a slide housing (containing the 22 cal barrel), a seperate slide piece (that cycles), a small recoil spring/guide, and 22LR magazines. The design is non-locking blowback with the slide housing/barrel "fixed" to the frame. Therefore the slide housing/barrel must be tightly fit to the frame. There are contact points on the kit that can be filed to fit the frame with a tight friction fit.

Be warned that the Kadet fitting instructions are slightly wrong for the P01. They say to fit contact "A" (the left front lower barrel lug area) and then fit contact areas "B" (short rail segments on the slide housing). Since the P01 has a short "dust cover" section of the front of the frame, the "B" contacts will be the first point of resistance, not the "A" contact. If you follow the Kadet kit instructions, you could end up removing too much from the "A" contact. Fit the "B" contacts first, then the "A" contact, if need be.

The stock P01 slide stop inner portion is too short to contact the 22 cal magazine follower, so the slide will not lock back after the last 22 round is fired. The solution is to email CZUSA and get a free PCR slide stop. The PCR slide stop has a longer inner portion that will reach the 22 magazine follower. Please note: the PCR slide stop should only be used when shooting 22LR, not when shooting 9 mm. On my pistol, the slide stop spring (in the frame) was pushing a little too hard on top of the PCR slide stop. The 22 magazine spring was not quite forceful enough to counter the slide stop spring. I did not want to alter the slide stop spring and change anything with the 9 mm action. So instead, I filed a small amount of metal from the rear of thin groove on top the PCR slide stop shaft, where the slide stop spring seats on the slide stop. This slightly decreased the downward pressure the spring has on the PCR slide stop and allows the magazine spring to lock the slide when empty.

The stock P01 single action trigger was stagey and gritty. Also the hammer would cam back in single action, enough that I could see it while slow aiming and overanticipate the shot. I solved both with my sear action job (see my other topic regarding this).

I did not need to perform any reliability tuning as I have had zero malfunctions with 1,000 rounds. I recommend starting with CCI 40 grain MiniMag (high velocity) 22LR ammo. Because the P01 has a compact frame, the 22LR conversion magazines protrude from the bottom of the magazine well.

The only extra maintenance issue might be 22 goo in the firing pin hole. After 1,000 rounds, you may want to clean the firing pin and firing pin tunnel. There is no firing pin saftey block and the firing pin can be removed easily via a firing pin stop at the back of the slide. Be careful though, the firing pin is spring loaded! Also note that the firing pin must be correctly rotated to key into the firing pin stop hole during reassembly.

I highly recommend the Kadet Kit to all P01 owners as an inexpensive training pistol. It is 100% reliable and fairly accurate.  It is a good way to learn trigger control and it saves a ton of cash on ammo.   My Kimber 1911 22LR conversion kit on a Colt Combat Commander frame is a more accurate tack driver, but that pistol has a fine tuned 1911 trigger action.
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Offline Kevin Quinlan

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 04:48:06 PM »
My Kadet fit two of my P-01's with no fitting. The third would have needed minor adjustment. Love the Kadet, but wish mags were cheaper, and held more rounds.

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 09:42:09 PM »
Pardon my asking, but why do you have three P01's? I have heard of a brace of pistols, but three? With such a variety of CZ75's, why three of the same model? Just wondering. I am considering an SP01 (safety version). Someone said the Kadet mag floor plates can be exchanged so they don't extend out from the P01's mag well. My Kadet floor plates don't want to come off and it would seem to leave the mag body much too short. There must be different versions of Kadet mags. I have two Ciener 22LR conversions on order: one for a Browning Hi Power with 14 round mags, and another for a 1911 with 15 round mags. At the range I normally just load 5 rounds at a time to maintain good form and concentration.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 07:03:34 AM »

Hi Wild,

Why three PO-1'? Easy. I bought my first pistol after reading how EVERYONE loved them. The second was purchased as a almost new one one because of the price, $385.00. Number three is a two tone liomited edition made for Gander Mountain.
One wears Omega grips, one Hakan grips, and one sports factory grips. Geing fortunate enough to live in a free state I have 10, 15 round mags, and one 25 round mag.
The P-01 is the perfect combination of size, reliability, and accuracy. I have found the PERFECT service pistol, and have enough to last 3-4 lifetimes.

 

 

 


Offline Il Hunter

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 09:21:25 AM »
Hey Wild how about a pic!

Offline Wild Rice.fz1ownersassoci...

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 12:26:55 PM »
 

In the above photo, my P01 is along side the Kadet 22LR conversion kit. When fitting the Kadet kit to a P01, file right and left areas "B" first (if needed) as they are the first contact points when mounting the slide housing to the frame. Then file area "A" if need be. The Kadet manual has this order reversed as it talks in general terms for fitting the Kadet to any CZ75. Take your time. There should be a tight friction fit, as these areas, the sights, and the barrel are "fixed" in position when mounted on the frame and do not cycle. The slide that cycles is marked "CZ 75 KADET". The stock P01 slide stop is installed on the assembled 9mm pistol.


In the above photo, the Kadet kit is mounted on my P01 frame along side the 9mm slide assembly. The 22LR magazine protrudes from the mag well when fully inserted. Also note the PCR slide stop, which has a shorter outer lever, but a longer inner tab that will contact the 22LR magazine follower and allow lock back after the last 22LR round. Again, only the section marked "CZ 75 KADET" cycles during firing, and therefore racking the slide is more difficult with the 22LR kit as there is less to grasp. It helps to coock the hammer first. The Kadet rear sights are full adjustable. The control operation, trigger pull, and decocking are the same whether you shoot 9mm or 22LR. That's why it is the perfect training set up.

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 12:57:10 PM »
 

This is my Kimber 22LR conversion on my Colt Series 80 Combat Commander with honed trigger action.  I had to adjust the 22LR extractor and enlarge the slide cut out for the thumb safety a bit, but it did not require any other "fitting".  The whole slide cycles, but the barrel stays fixed.  That is because the Kimber slide is light weight aluminum alloy instead of the the Kadet's all steel construction.  The Kimber slide is super easy to rack, but is not designed to lock back on the last shot.  The Kimber mag holds 10 rounds of 22LR.  The rear sight is fully adjustable.  Because of the nice 1911 trigger, the Kimber 22LR conversion can shoot the wings off a gnat.  As a 45 ACP, the Commander not slouch either.