Rumors and a response.

[tipoc]

I believe I got my first CZ 75B in 2001. I had it for awhile and put a few thousand rounds through it. It went away in a trade.

I followed it up with a nice minty pre B (with the original box and papers) that again I put a few thousand rounds through and kept in good shape. It began to bother me I was shooting a minty collectable so I sold it to a collector of Lugars I know who wanted it.

I got a 97 B after that which I liked very much which was traded though for a S&W wheelgun I'd been lusting after for a few years. Hard revolver to get and I could replace the 97 easily.

Anyway, I've been without a CZ for the last year or so.

On another forum though a fella (odd troll like fella) began a thread on how the 75 slide stops break so often that the 75 is a flawed design. "The slide stop pin is only good for 1500 rounds" he says. I know that was not true. The thread went on for pages.

It's inspired me to go out and get another 75B. I have a friend who offered me one that comes with a conversion kit. I'll have to get it from him. Along with my HP, I suppose? can use another 9mm. The 75 is a reliable beautiful gun.

tipoc

[freedomsmith]

You can never have too many 9mm guns. Get another CZ and the Browning won't be lonely.

[dleong]

On another forum though a fella (odd troll like fella) began a thread on how the 75 slide stops break so often that the 75 is a flawed design. "The slide stop pin is only good for 1500 rounds" he says. I know that was not true. The thread went on for pages.

Sounds like that chap might have something against the 75B.

As far as I'm aware, installing an excessively strong recoil spring and/or misaligned holes in the frame for the slide stop pin (a factory defect) might result in accelerated wear on the pin and possible premature breakage, but it's highly doubtful that a factory stock 75B would break its slide stop pin within 1500 rounds.

[SDDLUP]

I participated in that thread for a while! I've never seen such bias against CZ's and Czechs in general. WOW! To that guy CZ's are a faulty design no matter what... he just has issues I think, seems his purpose in life right now is to bash CZ's.

[Stuart]

that guy is an idiot with only point to prove to himself...real world proves his point worthless. is one design better or stronger..maybe..does it matter..not.


again my apologies..I woke up cranky.

[dleong]

Does anyone have a link to the thread in question?

[Stuart]

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315863&highlight=cz

[gmofftarki]

If that's the thread I think it is, it's an 85B, not a 75B, which they discuss in the thread.

I don't know the topic as well as the guys over there, but it seems to me that the whole "drill a bigger hole" thing in the 85B holds water as to why it hasn't been as reliable as the 75.

[Stuart]

If that's the thread I think it is, it's an 85B, not a 75B, which they discuss in the thread.

I don't know the topic as well as the guys over there, but it seems to me that the whole "drill a bigger hole" thing in the 85B holds water as to why it hasn't been as reliable as the 75.

different thread..this is about the design of the 75 being inferior and placing too much stress on itself because of its design..nothing to do with the 85

[dleong]

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315863&highlight=cz

Thank you, sir!

(I can't view that thread right now as I'm at work and the most firearms-related websites are filtered out, but I'll take a peek at it when I get home.)

[MITCH]

Guys, stop trying to educate those who believe that their mind is made up and don't want to be confused with the facts. Plus, let the law of supply and demand work. The less people want CZ's, the more will be on the market, the more on the market the lower the price for those of us who know the value of a CZ. I only have three now and am looking to add.
Mitch

[Walt Sherrill]

The guy starts out saying there's a frame problem, switches to it being a slide-stop problem (which, he claims a broken slide stop is a sign of a frame problem), etc., etc.   He argues and argues, and is more intent upon proving he's right (on any subject) than to really make a point about the gun or guns.

He was pretty forcefully answered and he doesn't even realize he's made a fool of himself.

[tipoc]

Sometimes you have to put on the hip boots and wade through the muck. New shooters looking for info on CZs can be thrown off track by folks who seem to know whereof they speak but are grinding an ax or working out a personal problem or something... In the? case of TFL thread, linked to above, the fella was given more than enough rope to hang himself and he did. More than once in fact. Like Jason in those Halloween movies you'd think he was out but he popped back up. He's down for a bit now. He'll come back in a month or so with some new angle.

Actual discussions of the strengths and weaknesses of particular guns can be useful, I learn something new and assumptions are challenged, but troll like beings are a drag.

I hadn't heard about the "1500 round service life" of the slide stop pin before that thread.? like I said I've oned CZs that went well beyond 1500 rounds with out a problem. So I need to find out more about that, if true it seems odd. Same thing pops up in Daddyos thread a few threads below this one on this forum. Rumors going around.

TIPOC

[MITCH]

Quiet please. I don't think my 75B knows it was supposed to have failure problems some 4,500 rounds ago. The stupid gun just keeps firing and hitting the target where I aim it.
It's never had a new part, but if you guys keep talking about parts that fail, it will want new this, new that, and then it will begin to sound like my girlfriend.
Mitch

[mbott]

That particular thread is close to 400 posts now and yet, it continues.  I have close to 20k rounds in my 3 CZ 75s now and I've yet to have anything break.  Guess no one told my guns how faulty they are. 

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Mike