Ammunition Accountability Act???

[double pedro]

Receieved an email about this:

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

Excerpt from email:

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states
(including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded
by the manufacture, a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will
know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition
after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.        Any
privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.
(Including handloaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on
every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or
more!        If they can deprive you of ammo, they do not need to take
your gun!        Please give this the widest distribution possible and
contact your Reps!

[BobC]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including handloaded ammo.)

Good luck to them on getting the bill passed, and if they do, good luck enforcing something like this.

Makes me wonder what percentage of physical-gold-owning people actually coughed up their privately owned gold in 1933 when FDR signed an executive order confiscating it.

People who own lots of ammo don't generally fit the "sheeple" profile but I suppose some do.

[CM Rich]

I'd say this is another one of those bills designed to fail, but continue to send a message. The date alone is pretty unrealistic, since we're talking about an entire industry essentially shutting down to retool- not something the economy really needs right now.

Hopefully, we can have a good voice for this one and shoot it down pretty quickly.

[FEG]

Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms are some of are most profitable exports as of today.  Please let's screw with them!  Let's screw some more people out of their jobs!  Yea!  GO TEAM OBAMA!!!!!

[Mrs Armoredman]

Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms are some of are most profitable exports as of today.  Please let's screw with them!  Let's screw some more people out of their jobs!  Yea!  GO TEAM OBAMA!!!!!

 Yes,lets also screw people out of thier homes. Forecloser is on the rise. Yes lets screw more people out of thier jobs and not be able to find another due to cut backs. GO TEAM OBAMA is right. I personally think they are all full of hot air. They think doing this codeing is going to solve anything? Please.

[chiuszeto]

Mrs Armoredman,

"lets also screw people out of thier homes"

That was already set into motion during the "dot bomb" collapse. The culprits there was Mr. Greenspan, the bankers and the banking regulators (who should bare the brunt of the blame).

Greenspan kept lowering the cost of borrowing monies for the banks. He saw how the banks responded when they lower their mortgage qualification standards as a result, so he kept lowering the rates knowing that it created an artificial housing boom as a result. Which also resulted in the artificial inflation of perceived housing values. This was to directly distort the true economic affects of the "dot bomb" as the venture capitalists basically emptied the economy with their pyramid scheme.

The banks equated that since the cost of borrowing monies was getting cheaper, they could take on riskier mortgages. They rationalized that the lower costs of borrowing monies can offset the higher default potential with the less qualified borrowers.

The banking regulators in the mean time just sat there and collected their salaries without lifting a finger to do their jobs, which equates to embezzlement on their part as they were basically ripping off the tax payers who paid their paychecks to overlook and head off this type of situation.

The entire lot needs to go to jail as this whole circle of folks are highly educated and would not miss a heart beat in letting anyone know that when they tout that as their justifications for the salaries that they collect. Big salaries should bare increasing responsibilities as well as accountabilities. Let's see if the new administration will make that connection, so far our government has been ignoring that.

"lets screw more people out of thier jobs and not be able to find another"

For that one, we can thank Mr. "Rappin Ronnie" when he allowed the Japanese corporations to purchase real estate in the US. One could also rationalize that Nixon and his China visit may have been the actual start of the "Global Economy" where we are trading what's left of our country's "true" wealth for little shiny bobbles (not too different from what was done to the native Americans). We have enough resources versus consumers within our borders for a robust free standing economy, as a country we gain literally nothing by trading offshore (key proof point, the world is not more stable as a result of "trade diplomacy" - a.k.a. trade bullying).

This "trade diplomacy" only benefits the large corporations as we allow them to offshore in order to avoid taxes which would otherwise be paid at the local and federal levels as well as through the payroll "burdens" by the American workers/employees. In turn we typically send out troops to protect their offshore interests, which are funded by our collective tax dollars, which they just avoided paying their fair share of when they offshored. What's wrong with the picture? Let's see if the new administration will call it for what it is - this one is probably a longer shot with the whole Clinton situation.

[BobC]

I love my country dearly, but I fear we have become so apathetic that much pain will need to be felt, far and wide, before we come to our senses and vote the current clowns out of office.  Then there's the problems of finding new, less corrupt, more competent clowns who have the intelligence and intestinal fortitude to guide us to a new era of sound policy.

The laws of economics dictate that we can only "stimulate" the economy with money created out of thin air for so long, before we see the horrors of hyperinflation, depression, meltdown.

In the economics departments of some of our "best" universities, they teach that these things can't happen in America .

Our new Dear Leader has decided that it's most important to make sure we use US tax dollars to take it easy on the poor Gitmo detainees, pay for abortions around the world, and pour gasoline on the economic fire than to do anything sensible.

I'm watching the news each day to see when he's going to announce his war on firearm ownership.  Get ready, it's coming, just don't know when.

[chiuszeto]

BobC,

"problems of finding new, less corrupt, more competent clowns who have the intelligence and intestinal fortitude to guide us to a new era of sound policy"

Sadly, you're probably right on. Unfortunately, we deserve nothing less than true patriots who will govern based on what is best for the overall country, not just the elite rich, but you have identified probably the best we will ever get from the political machine/mess that we now have.

"the economics departments of some of our "best" universities, they teach"

Unfortunately, a lot of the "higher education" has been teaching that finding/exploiting loopholes holds more value and rewards than working hard ethically. Just take a look at all the "white collar antics" committed by the MBA ranks.

[BobC]

Right on.

The Wall Street jobs that were so highly sought after by Ivy League grads until recently have dried up.  Many MANY of the smarty pants brokers and hedge fund managers have gotten a taste of reality lately.

I haven't shed a tear for them.

[chiuszeto]

That's just the new wave trying to get into the sham. There are still plenty more "well entrenched" ones still to fall out of the woodworks and it'll keep playing out that way until the government steps up to the plate to throw those white collar thugs in jail. The challenge here is that for the government to do that, a lot of elected officials may have to turn on the "hands that fed them" and got them into office in the first place...

[75Plus]

In the immortal words of Walt Kelly's "POGO", "We have met the enemy and he is US"

Joe

[chiuszeto]

To be more specific in the current situation, the "highly trained" MBAs who are morally corrupt and lacking all respect for any ethics. It makes one wonder a bit on the Communist Chinese and their "Cultural Revolution..."

[drnickels]

"I'm watching the news each day to see when he's going to announce his war on firearm ownership.  Get ready, it's coming, just don't know when."

It won't happen in his first term. It can't. He has way too much other stuff going on. If it will happen (It wouldn't be a full on ban on firearms just certain ones) it will happen in this 2nd term. Hopefully though the republicans can find a decent candidate by 2012 and we won't have to elect Obama again.

Personally I've fancied the idea of politics, but I am so middle of the road with things that I'd never get anywhere haha.

[nra-life-member]

If I am not mistaken did President Reagan repeal the ammo tracking act or what ever it was called when he was president.  In the Middle to late 1980's?

[pitbull]

Lets pass a bill for government accountability.