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Offline Pow-ding

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Need some information please
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:06:18 PM »
Hello,

I am new here but not new to CZ's. I have a CZ 50, and a CZ 85 standard model. Both are excellent shooters.

The CZ 85 is the one I have questions on. First, it is a 9mm, purchased in December of 1993. I would suspect that the recoil spring needs changed. I checked the Wolff Springs site and did not find recoil springs for the 85. Does the recoil spring need replaced even though the pistol has not been shot very much (maybe 500-600 rounds)? If so, where does one get a good recoil spring for a 85, and is it the same as for the 75?

The other question I have is about Mec-gar mags. Do the CZ 75 mags work in the CZ 85? I wanted to purchase a few hi-cap mags.

Thanks for any information you can help me with!

KEN

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Re: Need some information please
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2009, 05:58:24 PM »
Welcome to the forum. Someone able to answer will be along shortly I'm sure.
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Re: Need some information please
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2009, 11:10:47 PM »
i havent had any problems swapping my CZ/Mecgar mags between my CZs.

I haven swapped any of my recoil springs in my CZs.  The one i probably should swap is my 85.   If you check wolf, they probably have it listed under 75 or maybe 75/85 or maybe EAA.


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Re: Need some information please
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 11:10:02 AM »
Thanks for the information.

I guess a CZ 85 is basically a CZ 75 with ambi safety?

Thanks again-

KEN

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Re: Need some information please
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 04:18:01 PM »
Thanks for the information.

I guess a CZ 85 is basically a CZ 75 with ambi safety?

Thanks again-

KEN

and ambi slide release too.

AFA internals go, there are some dif for the controls.  but other then that, i wouldnt know since i havent dissected any of my CZs.

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Re: Need some information please
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 07:09:20 PM »
Hold on now. If your pistol is from 1993 (and possibly older than that, knowing CZ's habit of dating older stock with newer serials and date codes), then it falls into the mysterious "transitional" period. Basically, this was the time when CZ was phasing out the original CZ75/85 in favor of the new 75B/85B, and to do that, they needed to work their way through a large inventory of old stock, mixing and matching new/old parts as they went along. The big difference was the inclusion of a firing pin block safety device (the "B"), and you can immediately ID your's as having one by looking for a small hole in your slide serration area. The presence of older-style text will also ID it as an older gun, but not always, since transitionals are weird like that.

Older frames were slightly smaller, so modern-day mags will NOT work in older frames. You might have to search out the increasingly rare old style mags, which, I'm afraid, can be a real hassle. Older 75/85s are also slighlt different internally, so some modern day replacement parts won't work (safety and ambi slide stop, for example).

As far as replacing the recoil spring, you may not need to, since 5-600 rounds isn't all that much. If you want to, though, you can use a 75 spring just fine.

Do you happen to know if its a Combat model? Early 85 Combats didn't have any special markings, and were only identified as such with early-style adjustable rear sights and the modern-day squared triggerguard. I mention this because if you want to properly ID this as an older frame or not, the Combat's squared triggerguard will make it a bit more difficult.

Any chance you could post some pics? We might be able to help you out further. Plus, its never a bad thing to see another CZ out there! If you can, show some pics of the mags- that'll be a big help as well.