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Offline PTGT_Neon

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The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« on: March 22, 2009, 04:31:25 PM »
Just in case anyone didn't already know, I found out that the Kadet .22 kit doesn't fit the decocker Phantom.  The thing slides right on and looks like its ready to go.  but the slide won't come back all the way.  There are various pieces that prevent the two systems from working together.

No,  I didn't buy one.  My friend has a Kadet kit and I was curious.

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 05:41:24 PM »
So what keeps it from functioning on the Phantom frame?
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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 06:52:26 PM »
I wish I knew more about what the particular parts are called.  The Kadet slide would not come back all the way.  So the gun would not cycle correctly.  It looked like the Kadet could be modified for the decocker models.

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 02:53:01 PM »
Mine works fine on the Phantom frame.  Likely they sent you the wrong slide stop in the Kadet kit.

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2009, 10:38:21 PM »
So there are different Kadet kits for the different guns?  That's news to me.

My friend's Kadet kit fit his CZ-75 B, which of course uses a safety.

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2009, 11:42:43 PM »
I wish I knew more about what the particular parts are called.  The Kadet slide would not come back all the way.  So the gun would not cycle correctly.  It looked like the Kadet could be modified for the decocker models.

My old Kadet ran fine on my old PCR.  There are no differences in the slide assemblies between the decocker & safety models.

I think the issue with your Phantom is that it's a Phantom, not that it's a decocker.  My suspiscion is that the steel insert in the polymer frame is different than standard steel or alloy frames at the back end...
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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 03:24:45 PM »
What is a PCR?

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 03:32:40 PM »
SP-01, P-01, CZ-75 Compact, CZ-75 Kadet, CZ-40B, CZ-83 Nickel, CZ-52, CZ-70, CZ-50, CZ 700 Sniper,  CZ 527 Kevlar, CZ 452 Ultra Lux, CZ 452 American 16", CZ 452 Scout, CZ V22 AR Upper, Sar K2

Offline pitbull

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »
I have heard the Kadet .22 kit will not fit the PO7. Does anyone know for sure?

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2009, 04:22:01 PM »
I have heard the Kadet .22 kit will not fit the PO7. Does anyone know for sure?

No, it doesn't fit.  Still looking to see what modifications would be required to the Kadet slide, not to mention magazines.
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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 04:31:04 PM »
Thanks AbyssDncr for your quick response. Those were great pics of your P07 disassembly and a much appreciated range report.

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Re: The Kadet doesn't work with Decockers
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 05:58:06 PM »
Thanks AbyssDncr for your quick response. Those were great pics of your P07 disassembly and a much appreciated range report.

No problem, happy to help.  Hopefully by this time next week I will have a better sight solution to recommend.   ;)
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