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California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« on: September 23, 2009, 12:05:04 AM »
I received this on email today:

To: Cabela's California Customers
From: Cabela's Communications
Subject: California Assembly Bill 962
Date: Sept. 22, 2009

We are writing to inform you of pending legislation that will restrict purchases of handgun ammunition in California and will terminate our ability to service your needs for certain products.

On Friday, Sept. 11, the California Assembly passed Assembly Bill 962, by a 44-31 vote.

Among other regulations, AB 962 would:
? Ban all mail-order and Internet sales of handgun ammunition.
? Prohibit the retail sale, the offer for sale or the display of handgun ammunition in a
  manner that allows ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser without assistance of a
  vendor or employee.
? Require that the delivery or transfer of ownership of handgun ammunition occur in a
  face-to-face transaction, with the deliverer or transferor being provided bona fide
  evidence of identity of the purchaser or other transferee.

That evidence of identity, which must be legibly recorded at the time of delivery, includes:
? The right thumbprint of the purchaser or transferee.
? The date of the sale or other transaction.
? The purchaser's or transferee's driver's license or other identification number and the
  state in which it was issued.
? The brand, type and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise transferred.
? The purchaser's or transferee's signature.
? The name of the salesperson who processed the sale or other transaction.
? The purchaser's or transferee's full residential address and telephone number.
? The purchaser's or transferee's date of birth.

The bill is on the desk of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, where it awaits his consideration. He will have until Oct. 11 to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto the bill, it will become law.

If you wish to comment on AB 962, you may contact Gov. Schwarzenegger by phone at (916) 445-2841, or via fax at (916) 558-3160. To e-mail Gov. Schwarzenegger, visit
http://gov.ca.gov/interact

We encourage all Cabela's customers who participate in the shooting sports to contact Gov. Schwarzenegger to voice their opposition to this initiative, which will limit your opportunities to shop with Cabela's, and will restrict the sale of handgun ammunition everywhere in California.
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 09:17:59 AM »
You can help fight this bill with a phone call.  Simply call 916-445-2841.  Press 1, then 2 then 2 and then 2 again.  The first press is for "English" (infuriating that we should have to press 1 to get the national language but that's another matter).  The second press is to voice your opinion on a poll.  The next press is to select AB 962 and the last press is to oppose it.  It just takes a few minutes and will help kill this bill. 

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 09:31:46 PM »
The part that really burns me about this is the mail order and Internet sales ban :-(
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 09:48:33 PM »
I know. This really blows and affects me directly. I buy mostly in person but that's not the point. This raises costs on legal sellers and buyers and does nothing to curb criminal activity. Why does the same stupid logic continue to get respect?
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 09:54:14 PM »
infuriating that we should have to press 1 to get the national language but that's another matter
Frankly, I don't get why (nor do I understand why there is such a thing as a national language...or borders...but that's yet another matter). You can speak any bleep language you want if you believe in freedom from unjust force. In fact, the same principle that underlies our right to guns underlies our right to live where we want/can and speak what we want/can. If the language option gives more immigrants the chance to voice this opinion, I'm all for it.
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 10:47:43 PM »
Neverfox, the issue there is when others who come here insist we speak thier language. BUT, I won'tget into the whole immigrant debate, this is NOT the board for that. As for Cali, best of luck to your fight!

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 04:15:20 AM »
Agreed. I don't intend to debate it here. Thanks for the support.
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 08:54:14 PM »
Was born, raised and lived in California for most of my life. I really liked living there, but this is one of the reasons I now reside in Texas (where my family is originally from)!

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 02:22:38 AM »
 Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions. I lived in Mojave, Ca. in 93 or 94. From what I heard the great state of CA. passed over 2000 laws that year alone. But could be wrong. I can think of one mean, terrifying beast when it comes to restriction... a snake called the boa. Slithering it's twisted body around it's prey. First you lose control of maybe one appendage, then another, and so on until you have lost absolute control. Eventually, it squeezes out every breath of life out of it's people, I mean prey.
  Sorry for being so morbid, but I feel that government control resembles this...it's slow but powerful and sadly effective. I know that this is only one state, and maybe not the state you might live in, but this state is one of our appendages.

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 04:21:12 PM »
the  end of internet ammunition shopping-shipping channel.

seems like legislative  power  is  looking  at   some  socialists  solutions to  push gun control at work.this internet ammo  business ban is a prime example.

just the beggining.

over here,it's just insane,we all learn the hard way what really  mean '''gun control''...it  also mean '''mass control'''....fortunatly, rules concerning ammunition aren't that crazy  and i hope for californians that  this  project  will   never reach anything else than  the status of ''lefties wet dreams''only.
i will  ask my cousin who live in redondo beach what he think about this...yes he's a firearms owner.

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2009, 07:17:56 PM »
Did he sign it?

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2009, 08:39:58 PM »
Did he sign it?

i dont think shwartzy will ever put his name on that  project.

arnie is well busy with  freshwater ressources and green energy.

he  dont  need to  raise  a  general stand up across  the state.

adding to this ,i highly doubt he would ever like to be remembered  as  the man who's  seized  americans freedom  driver's left.


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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2009, 09:46:11 PM »
Did he sign it?

The problem is he doesn't have to. It becomes law automatically if he simply let's the deadline pass without a veto. That's a big part of the urgency.
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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2009, 01:37:03 AM »
Ah, I see. >:(

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Re: California Ammunition Sales are at Risk Due to Legislation
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 10:39:57 PM »
Did he sign it?

The problem is he doesn't have to. It becomes law automatically if he simply let's the deadline pass without a veto. That's a big part of the urgency.
 

 isn't  the  deadline  for  10th of october???