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Offline lakbum

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Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« on: March 30, 2010, 09:19:30 PM »
I swore like I saw this topic before but I was unable to find it.  I've read that the Shadow Target is a Shadow custom with the adjustable rear sights.  Is there anything else that's different or can I assume its better then the Shadow Custom?

I'm planning on purchasing either one since the price is comparable and I would like to get the members of this forum to help me pick.

Which one would you get and why?  I'm primarily interested in getting the best

Thanks ahead.  This will be my second pistol after the P07 and I can't wait to fire a full size pistol.
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Offline Cesar

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 10:42:12 PM »
Personally, I see no need for adjustable sights on this gun. I went for practice last Sunday and was able to put holes dead center in golfball size circles at 15 yards. I need to bring a video cam with me and document making smily faces, on tape :D

Offline lakbum

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 11:07:20 PM »
I'm guessing you have the Custom.  So, there are no other differences between the guns except the adjustable rear sight for the Target?
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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 09:16:33 AM »
lakbum,

I have the Shadow Custom. Looking at the Target, I believe the cocobolo grips and sight are the differences.

You can email angus or Rob Bagnato at CZ Custom if Angus does not get a chance to confirm this here.

BTW if you decide on the Target for the rear sight, but want the thin aluminum grips vs. the wood, let me know, maybe we can swap grips. I have a set of Red ones, but they are too thin for my taste.

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Offline lakbum

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 09:54:32 AM »
CSM CZ Shooter, if I do go with the Target, I'll definitely have to take you up on your offer on switching grips.  I actually want the Red ones but they seem to be out of stock at the czcustom site.

I've got about a week left before I can make the purchase due to Virginia handgun laws, but I should hopefully make a decision then.

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Offline pistolbro206

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 10:53:23 AM »
Depends on what you plan to do with the gun.

If it's for self defense and you plan to use a variety of factory loads, then the adjustable rear sight with an ability to modify the elevation would be great. 

Although if you only shoot one brand and learn where it shoots, then it's not as necessary.

Maybe you plan to just punch paper at a static range and like to make your own handloads and enjoy making up different recipies in search of the perfect load for your gun.  If so, having that target rear sight is hand when you switch from a 147 grain bullet to a 124 or 114 grain.  Then the edge goes toward the Target.

I believe the Shadow Target looks better, but I shoot my Shadow in practical pistol games.  There are a lot of unloaded starts on the clock and I've ripped open some skin from racking the back portion of a slide with and adjustable "Bomar" style rear sight.  For this issue the edge would go to the standard Shadow custom.

I just went through some 147 grain bullets and would have liked the adjustability of the Target Shadow as well as setting it back for when I go to my 124 grain bullet load, but I plan just to learn how to shoot my Shadow with any bullet I put through it.

Maybe you should get both, one for load development and one for fun.  Good luck in your choice.

Offline sig2009

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 12:27:11 PM »
From what Rob at CZ Custom told me the Shadow Custom has the firing pin block where the Shadow Target comes without the firing pin block. The Shadow Custom has the heavier springs springs installed and has a heavier trigger and is shipped to the dealer with the heavier springs. Rob said they can put the lighter springs in if you order from CZ Custom and not the dealer. The Shadow Target has the lighter springs hence the lighter trigger. I ordered the Shadow Target.
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Offline Cesar

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 02:17:45 PM »
Are you saying they modify the slide on Custom to install FPB?  :o
All stock Shadows come without FPB in their slides ....

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »
Are you saying they modify the slide on Custom to install FPB?  :o
All stock Shadows come without FPB in their slides ....

You might be right. I may have been comparing the Shadow to the SP-01 Custom. that's why I called rob because it was getting confusing with these models.
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Offline CSM CZ Shooter

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 03:26:42 PM »
Cesar is right. Shadows do not have FPB. That is one difference from the SP-01, the other is a slightly higher cut under the trigger guard and beavertail area on the backstrap. Sights, triggers, safeies, mag release vary from model to model. Those two differences are why you can make a SP-01 similar to a Shadow, but not exactly the same.
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Offline Cesar

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 04:07:24 PM »
IMHO, the best deal is to get regular Shadow with comp hammer and trigger job and lighter springs = Custom Shadow.

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 12:57:30 PM »
+1 with what Cesar said.  I hae an SP-01 that I am about to change sights and hammer.  I'll end up with a gun close to the Shadow with a FPB.  By the time I buy the new parts I will be at or more all in costs over what I would have paid for a 2nd Shadow.

I have the night sights on the SP-01 and they don't work well for IDPA/IPSC for me.  We can't carry up here so the night sights are moot except for home defense.

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Offline yogibearal

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 08:53:16 PM »
I'm interested in this information as well.  What I have gatthered are as follows,

Shadow target on CZ-USA site
- have the heavier recoil/main springs (CZ requested heavier springs in there but they can be easily swapped out)
- adjustable sight as the main difference (requires different cut in slide?) - not easily done and on cz custom sight is a $210 cost
- Cocobolo grips instead of Aluminum. (which is also easily swapped out)

Also I'm not good with my memory but it is also said since the "target" is sold through CZ it is sanctioned for production class where as the Shadow custom isn't.  I could be totally off base here so someone correct me if I'm wrong (like if this applies to USPSA or IPSC).

If what I mentioned above is correct then I may just get the "target" for the adjustable sights since I can easily swap out the springs and grips and still qualify for production class?  Just leaves more options open if I decide to go that route.

Now that I got the different types of triggeres figured out I need to get this stuff figured out before I purchase.

Thanks for anyone who can provide the info.

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Offline Walkure

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Re: Shadow Custom vs Shadow Target
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 09:01:20 PM »
Also I'm not good with my memory but it is also said since the "target" is sold through CZ it is sanctioned for production class where as the Shadow custom isn't.  I could be totally off base here so someone correct me if I'm wrong (like if this applies to USPSA or IPSC).

Both are still Shadows and should be acceptable for Production in either discipline.

If anything, the Shadow Target would be the illegal one, since it is a separate catalogued item. The "Shadow Custom" is simply a SP-01 Shadow with a standard custom work package applied.