CZ-85 Combat Pricing...

[imasterxx]

I'm looking for a CZ-85 Combat in Nickel and was curious what the price is for a new one.  I see on cz-usa.com they have a MSRP of $600.  Is that about how much they go for new in the box?  
It's hard to find one around here and I might have to have it special ordered for $614.  Is that too high?  Money isn't really an issue but I don't want to get hosed on the deal.  What do you guys think?

[Walt-Sherrill]

I bought mine, a couple of years ago, for $450.  It came with one 10-round and one 15-round mag.  It has the satin nickel finish.  

There is a problem right now, according to a friend who is an FFL.  He says CZ has told him that production is on hold, and they are backlogged for several months.  

You'll have to find one in inventory somewhere, as a dealer won't be able to order one for a while.  

But regardless, you  should be able to beat the $600 range...

[n-3rad]

A friend of mine just bought a satin nickle 85 combat a couple of months ago for $509 - the gun store had to order it.

Walt - please see my post on the flaking problem.

[imasterxx]

I think the problem I'm running into is that stores around me don't normally carry the CZ-85 Combat and would rather me buy one of the ones they have on-hand, rather than bring in more inventory to compete with what they already have on the shelves.  This friday I'm going to check out G.A.T. guns (in Illinois) and see if they can special order one for me at a lower cost than the other quote I got.

[Walt-Sherrill]

Right now, unless someone has one in the distribution pipeline, CZ isn't making any nickel 85 Combats  -- and probably won't for several months.  (They told dealers they are backlogged/backordered for 4-5 months, a month or two ago.)

[Eager]

I believe "The Gunshop"  aka "CZ Connection" has one now and they list them at $419.  http://[url=http://pdmall.com/CZC/pistol~1.htmpdmall.com/CZC/pistol~1.htm[/url[/url]]
This link my not work, but you can get it by searching for CZ Pistols, pdmall.  Anyway, there phone number is: "THE CZ CONNECTION 1-888-207-2220".  

Otherwise, there's a new one for sale now on GunBoker.com
http://[url=http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=32074506#DESCwww.gunbroker.com/Auction...#DESC[/url[/url]] for $479.  Appears to be the same seller.  

I just ordered one this way.  I expect it in next week.  I'll report on how it turns out then.

[imasterxx]

I emailed the guy and the only ones he's got are the 85's with poly finish...pity  

[Tangram 37]

My dealer/FFL was ordering a CZ85 Combat in nickel for me.  I sat there while he called CZ USA.  A new CZ combat was three month out by the reps estimate.  Perhaps poly might not be that bad.   I know.. I know that's not what you want.

I ended up getting a CZ Combat through a friend of Walt's -a one time deal.  I also let my order stand with Blue Mountain Gunworks. I'll fit both out the same and have a back-up for competition.

[imasterxx]

I'll continue to keep my eye's peeled.  I don't think I'll mind the wait, but I did have a question about the quality.  If they're not manufacturing them right now and the machines are being used for other guns, will the quality of the Combats be any different than when they were before?  I'm just thinking of examples where machines were changed to make different products and when the machines were changed back, they might not be as accurate as they once were (for the original product).  I don't know if that makes sense but it was just a thought I had.

[Walt-Sherrill]

I really don't think you'll see that much difference.  

Most of the production work is done using CNC equipment.

I'd like to think they pay extra attention to quality control on the 85 Combat, but I'm not sure that is the case.  The only place I know that extra attention is really paid, is with the top-end IPSC guns, where extra money is spent for hand-fitting and master gunsmith work.

My 85 Combat is as nicely finished as any gun I've got, now -- but its not a custom gun.

One reason the Combat models cost more is that they're different, because of the absence of the firing pin block.  They have to change production practices to crank them out.

They're good guns, and I don't remember when I last heard a complaint, here (on the Forum) about an 85 Combat.  

Heard one, long ago, and that same guy still whines about it on The High Road.  He had trigger work done by Teddy jacobsen, Teddy told him he [Teddy] didn't care for CZ, and it was down hill from there.   He offered to sell it here, I told him if he could wait a week or two, I'd buy it, after saying "sold," he backed out -- said he had a local buyer.  But, he still has it, and still complains.  

Some people aren't happy if they don't have something to complain about.

[Eager]

Oops.  My mistake.  I didn't notice that you were looking for a nickled model.

[milcaztra]

The CZ 85 Combat in nickel finish is worth the wait.  Following the belief that weapons should be bought in pairs, I bought three several years back and later sold one to a friend.

Is the PD Mall/CZ Connection site up to date?  Isn't this the distributor with the consistently best prices on CZs, or are there others?

[imasterxx]

I actually was able to find 2 places with a lot of CZ's in stock.  One being the Bullet Hole, which I found out about from this forum.  The other place is called the ColdFax of life.  I found out about them from gunsamerica.com, where they listed a Nickel Combat for sale.  

www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976489512.htm

They said they had virtually every CZ out there when I called them, and it comes with 2 15-round clips.  Bullet hole ships for $35 and ColdFax ships for $30 (both are considered rape by the FFL dealer I picked but what am I to do)

I already got the ball rolling by contacting a local FFL dealer, filling the paperwork out, and sending payment, so it's only a matter of time.  

[imasterxx]

1 other thing...

I emailed CZ-USA a while ago asking if the Combat is on back order and when it would be available.  This was their response:

"We do not currently have them in stock and there is a chance that we will
not get anymore.
I would check back in 30 days.
Thank You
CZ-USA"

I wonder how much the dealers would jack up the price if they knew this.

[Walt-Sherrill]

The year before last, CZ was talking seriously about discontinuing the nickel finish on all their guns, and CZ-USA was fighting to get it retained. (As we understood it, here on the CZ Forum, they wanted to change to a silver polycoat type finish.)

I wonder if the main company is back to talking about getting rid of the nickel finish?  If so, its probably a process that has been accelerated by the introduction of stainless steel 75Bs.