failure to fire

[clevor]

bought used cz82 at gun auction for 50.00. no clip. purchased 2 clips for 60.00 and ammo. shot gun today for first time. shame they wont let you shoot it before buying. gun ran ok for first 6 rounds. pulled trigger on next round and nothing happened. hammer was back and safety was off. trigger was in position like the hammer was back. took pressure off hammer and lowered while pulling trigger. trigger did not return to position for double action mode. pulled clip out and cleared round out of chamber. moved safety to on/off several times. pulled back hammer and it engaged. pulled trigger and nothing happend. pulled back slightly on hammer and pulled trigger. let pressure off hammer and it went dropped. worked hammer and trigger from cock to fire. something clicked in gun and trigger went to double action position with hammer down and safety off. loaded gun and chambered a round. fired 4 more rounds and same thing happend again. pulled trigger and hammer did not fall. ejected mag and cleared chamber. went to house and disassembled. could not see anything wrong. anybody know what happened?

[SMSgt]

The -82 is a great pistol, and I'm sorry to hear yours isn't working. It really sounds like an issue with the sear or sear spring. Short of seeing it myself, or you doing a complete disassembly, I don't know exactly what to tell you.

The first thing I'd do is a thorough cleaning and lube. When I got my -82, I removed the grips,  took it outside and soaked it in acetone (nasty stuff) in a bucket to remove any and all old grease and gunk. After brushing and slushing, I let it air dry and relubed everything with CLP. The firing pin is easy to remove and is probably gunked up also. A Q-tip or pipe cleaner is good for cleaning the space out.

If that doesn't solve your problem, further disassembly is needed to diagnose, and that can be tedious to say the least if you've never don't it before. There are a few really good website that will walk you thru it. I used:

http://sailorcurt.blogspot.com/2008/04/cz-82-gunsmithing-part-1.html

Take a look there and see if that's someting you'll willing to undertake. I let my local gunsmith look at mine, and after hearing his comments, I wouldn't let him work on it. He may know guns; he doen't know CZ-82s.

PM me if you need any more help.

[clevor]

I haven't cleaned it yet but decided to give it another go today. Shot 1 full clip of hollow points with no problems. Reloaded that clip with brown bear ball and tula ball and shot both clips. I had failure to fire on the last round of both clips. In both cases pulling the trigger would not drop the hammer. I ejected the round and pulled the trigger while grasping the hammer with my thumb. The hammer did fall. Go figure. Reloaded the last round in both clips and let the hammer off on one clip. Pulled the trigger in DA. Gun fired and locked slide back. On the next clip I left the hammer back after loading one in the chamber from the clip. Pulled the trigger, gun fired and locked slide back. I don't want to take the gun to a gun smith because it is not worth it. If it is something in the trigger mecanism then I'm not adverse to replacing parts if I can find them. Right now I have not been able to find any components for the gun. I checked numrich and the only thing they have is holsters. I hate to "parts change" till it fixes it. Any other advice beside cleaning it would be welcomed as this is my first vz pistol.

[eric0424]

If cleaning doesn't cure the problem you can order parts from CZ USA and there are a few sites out there with detailed tear-down guides.  When CZ USA get's their parts back up in the online store you will find most of them there.   The last time I checked the site was a new format and not all of the parts were listed.

Just checked again and more parts are there, still not all of them though, if you need something that isn't listed a call to CZ USA can get anything else.  Here are the parts and tear-down links.

https://shop.cz-usa.com/C-38/SPARE-PARTS.aspx

http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=17&chapter=0

There are some pictures on the site below, but if you use the Firefox browser (as I do) the photos won't load.  I have to open this site in Internet Explorer.

http://myweb.cableone.net/leolani/cz-82-disassembly.html

[SMSgt]

As far as I know, with the exception of the latest model slide release levers, the CZ-83 parts all fit the -82 and most (if not all) are available thru CZ-USA.

Are you sure the slide is returning to battery on the last rounds? Sounds like a very odd issue. I'll have to get my 82 out and experiment to see If I can duplicate. Usually a gun mechanical problem is consistant, not something that happens on every certain number round.  Mag problems not so. Did you disassemble and clean the mags also? Mine were really full of gunk when received. IF you're planning on lubing them, I suggest using a dry lube only (NEVER WD-40) so it doesn't attract residue so bad. The top end of the mag is bad to collect residue. I break down and clean my mags about every other range trip.

Somewhere in SailorCurt's site, during reassembly, it tells how to make sure the sear and hammer block is working properly. Might give that a try.

I'm starting to suspect, given the price you paid for the gun, that someone may have torn it down, couldn't get it reassembled correctly, and sold it for parts or trade. I'm thinking that if you do a complete disassemble, clean, inspect, and reassemble, unless you find something broken, it will work fine.

[eric0424]

As far as I know, with the exception of the latest model slide release levers, the CZ-83 parts all fit the -82 and most (if not all) are available thru CZ-USA.

That's what I was thinking, it's been a while since I tore into the 82 and I don't have it here yet, but I remember something about the slide stop and spring being different and a pin somewhere in the 82 was a little smaller than the same pin in the 83.

[Comte]

You got a cz-82 for $50?  Are you sure someone didnt pawn one of those parts guns off on you as a shooter? 

[clevor]

It did not have a clip, finish was rough and it was missing a grip screw. It was also raining at the time with a tent covering the auction area and cold. Those issues combined to make a lot of the stuff go cheap. I bought a .30-06 mauser that had been sporterized for $90.00. It shoots also although I may have to rebarrel it due to some chamber issues. You get what you pay for. I knew this when I bid on the stuff. 2 clips for the vz-82 cost 60.00. Based upon what other items were going for that day it might have went for 75.00 to 100.00 if it had a clip. Then again maybe not.

[Comte]

I would have to say yes, you got a parts gun.  thats ok, with a little work and new parts it should work fine.  Talk to cz, they might help you get it running up to speed. 

[jcrntx]

As far as I know, with the exception of the latest model slide release levers, the CZ-83 parts all fit the -82 and most (if not all) are available thru CZ-USA.

That's what I was thinking, it's been a while since I tore into the 82 and I don't have it here yet, but I remember something about the slide stop and spring being different and a pin somewhere in the 82 was a little smaller than the same pin in the 83.

That is correct on the newer CZ83, they have a different slide stop spring, it is an L rather than a curved hook.  The earlier versions of the 83 have the same hooked slide stop spring (like my 94 version).

[billjohnso20]

If it comes down to it, CZ-USA will work on your gun for a premium. You can find an excell link here http://cz-usa.com/upgrades/

[painter]

If it comes down to it, CZ-USA will work on your gun for a premium. You can find an excell link here http://cz-usa.com/upgrades/

Sometimes...

expensive can be cheap.