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Offline lwj

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How P-07 compares to a Glock.
« on: March 07, 2011, 10:23:28 PM »
Do/ did not own neither one, but would like to hear from someone who had/ shot both.

Offline hotrod6657

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Re: How P-07 compares to a Glock.
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2011, 12:05:06 AM »
I own a P07 and my father as well as a college buddy own GLOCK 19s.  I will say personally I like the "in the hand feel" of the CZ much more than that of the GLOCK, however you can more or less compensate for this with one of those Houge grips for the GLOCK.

As far as shooting them, the GLOCK is simpler to operate given the lack of "true" safeties however I find they both shoot very well and the CZ gives you primer re-strike ability which could be nice (though the old tap and rack drill is probably a better response to FTF on both).

As would be expected the SA trigger pull of the CZ is nicer and the trigger pull of the GLOCK is nicer than my CZ's DA pull.  Neither are particularly harsh though.

Despite opinions to the contrary I think the CZ wins in the ergonomics department.  Not because it looks good (which I think it does), but because it feels more natural and doesn't bite people with the slide as improperly held GLOCKs have a tendency to do.  There again, the key words are improperly held GLOCKs...

One last obvious victory for the GLOCK is the availability of magazines/holsters/accessories for them.  The P07 is in its infancy still and the aftermarket support just isn't there, but getting better.

My personal opinion is that the CZ is superior.  I enjoy shooting it more, it's nicer looking (though a completely irrelevant rubric by which to judge a personal defense pistol...), and infinitely more unique than a GLOCK.  I also like having the option of installing a "true" safety and love having an external hammer...

Hope that helps and let us know what you decide.  Volumes can be learned by just going to a shop that sells both and holding them/dry firing a few rounds (SA and DA for the CZ).

Offline Lior

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Re: How P-07 compares to a Glock.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 12:41:04 AM »
Big, important, subjective question:

1. Carry: The P07 is about as easy to conceal as the G19, with the small addition of a beavertail (which may impede groin holstering while sitting / sneezing). Weight difference is negligible. P07 has a slimmer arsepart (grip), which is nice.
2. Safety: this is dependent mainly on the user. I was squeamish about carrying a G19 with a round in the chamber, but have no problem doing so with the P07 with the hammer down. The manual safety of the P07 is a PITA, but the decocker is fine. Neither will fire if you don't pull the trigger.
3. Mags: I never encountered problems with FML Glock magazines, but my P07 magazines frequently fail to drop. Glock has more aftermarket options.
4. Shooting: the P07 has an excellent frame design. For competition shooting, the trigger reset is longer than the Glock's, which takes getting used to. In my hand, ergonomics are superior to the G19 in every way. The G17 wins on sight radius and feel. Yesterday I shot an old 2nd generation G17 with a very nice 3.5# trigger in a couple of IPSC stages, and felt it to be totally superior to my P07 in the same scenario. For self defense shooting, this is not as important. The P07 is comparable to the G17 in sight picture recovery time, i.e. is well balanced for a light pistol. Most new Glock triggers are inferior to the P07's in single action for first pull.
5. Aftermarket / accessories. Glock wins hands down. Finding nice accessories for the P07 is often a baffling ordeal, especially for southpaw shooters.
6. Reliability and durability. For normal gun owners who do not intentionally neglect and abuse their guns, both a P07 or 9mm Glock should outlast the shooter and fire every time.

Offline turbodieseli4i6

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Re: How P-07 compares to a Glock.
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 09:21:47 AM »
I chose a CZ because they are known for better accuracy than Glock and the grip angle. CZ just feels right in the hand and I am hoping they make a Kadet kit for it.

Glock's reliability and Field stripping ease is hard to beat, not to mention with a G19 you can use mags from a G17 and G18.

33 rounds per stick could have some advantages.

I paid less for my 33 round mags for my G17 than I will pay for the 4 round extensions for my P07, if CZ ever gets any in stock!

Offline Biggolden

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Re: How P-07 compares to a Glock.
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011, 09:47:56 AM »
There's a 4 oz. weight difference (the 19 is lighter), which I found noticeable in concealed carry. If you convert the P-07 to the DA/SA mode, there's a truly crappy little piece of metal involved that allows the cocked and locked capability; I don't trust it.

The Glock's ergonomics are inferior; otherwise it's a better gun. But I prefer the Rami to either.