Hello gents, on the classic forum there is a rather heated discussion on whether or not to buy a pre-B or B model. I read the excellent article suggested bt JayPee, and now have a question. In all the years of reading gun mags and gun rags I don't recall any mention of the pre-B 85. It was big news when the 85B came out, all other articles seemed to focus on the 75, which I think was changed to B status when the 85B was released. I have not seen a plain 85 and would like to know how plentiful they are compared to the plain 75 (which I love).