After WWII you would think the government of England would "GET IT". It is the people who need to know how to shoot and protect themselves. The people are the ones that make up the military, who fire the guns that win battles and wars.
When Hitler was about to invade England, The British government was begging the USA for guns and instructors on how to defend themselves and their country. As always we (THE PEOPLE OF THE USA) did our part with guns and people who knew how to use them. The rest is history.
You may be asking what dose this have to do with the tread in the forum. First to those who do not know "Study history! for those who do not, history WILL REPEAT ITSELF"!
The British government has beat the idea of not using weapons (guns, knives, swords etc) to defend yourself into the populace of the country and actively punished those that did. This shows how timed the British citizen has become, to the point it is WORLD NEWS when someone in England has the courage of fighting back and survives it's own government.
Since we all know this could never happen again. But just in case it might happen, yet again. We should say "Where are your people, you know the ones that know how to defend themselves and their country, the ones that can and will fight"?
The most telling story (I THINK) is when Yamamoto was asked if he would put Japanese troops on American soil, he said never. Because behind each blade of grass there would be an American with a gun.
I know I am being hateful, But when I see the politicians who want to turn the USA into places like Britain, France, Spain. I ask myself "WHO WILL SAVE US".
WE WILL!!!! I hope. I Pray!
This post is full of incorrect assumptions and erroneous information
Churchill and Roosevelt designed 'Lend-Lease' to get around the current public and Federal distaste for getting involved in what was perceived at the time as a European problem. it allowed Roosevelt to tacitly support GB while not losing the support of Congress. Britain had plenty of 'instructors', what it did not have were the warships to protect the merchant convoys bringing oil, steel, coal, and the other requisites of war. As WWII progressed and it became apparent that the US was going to participate 'Lend lease' grew to encompass all the
materiel, tanks, planes, etc that would be needed to open the second front.
Despite what the US people may think, the US Congress had little interest in the European theater of conflict, considering their interests to lie to the west in the Pacific. If not for 'Uncle Joe' and the Red Army tying down 100s of German Divisions and aircraft the US/UK invasion would have stood a very good chance of becoming a debacle instead of a triumph. As it was, if The UK hadn't endured the war alone from 1940 - 1941, forcing Hitler to concede defeat in his invasion plans in October 1940 with little to no direct help at all from anyone, including the US, it would have been a case of 'too little-too late' by December 7 1941 when America finally woke up and realized they were in it, like it or not. Hitler knew long before that he could never have subdued the UK even if he forced the surrender of the military forces opposing his troops. The assault on the UK was designed to force a political settlement, rather than a purely military one. As such the American assistance through 'lend-Lease' was vital demonstration to show that the UK could resist Germany indefinitely if it continued even though at that time it yet to become the vital supply route it became later.
As for British Citizens being (sic) 'timed', just ask the USMC, US Army, Navy, Air force, or in fact any of the troops fighting along side UK Forces, in fact ask the relatives of the dead how 'timid' they feel.
This story is news in the US because of the erroneous belief that there is no right of self defense in the UK. This is not, and never has been the case. Where UK law differs from the US is that in the case of deadly force or serious injury there is no equivalent step between investigation and charging such as a Grand Jury which means that the only panel empowered to decide whether force was justified is a jury of one's peers. Thus, when someone dies or is badly injured during the commission of a crime, the prosecutor's office is far more likely to put the matter in front of a jury to decide the facts rather than take the responsibility upon themselves.
Lastly, the Yamamoto quote is an urban legend, he never said it.
Hateful? no. Badly informed, certainly.
