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Offline GoldDot

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If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« on: December 16, 2012, 09:05:56 AM »
and some laws restricting them go into effect next year( 2013), would it effect the gun I already have ?
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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 09:35:33 AM »
Anything can happen, but I would suspect it would be like the ban in CA where if you owned one of the newly banned weapons you would have a grace period during which you must re register your rifle as an AW.  A registered AW is non transferable and must be destroyed upon your death.  Of course there were many Californians who owned the banned rifles who didn't re register them as AWs, so those rifles are now in violation of the ban.

In CA, many LEOs are either unfamiliar with the particulars of all the gun laws, or have any interest in enforcing them.  The enforcement comes mostly in the form of peer pressure in the gun community.

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 09:36:25 AM »
youre putting to much thought into it.

just buy the gun now.  you snooze you loose.



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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 10:42:38 AM »
It would likely be grandfathered in. There definitely isn't enough support to confiscate weapons or anything like that.

It can't hurt to buy one, but I'm not sure that there will actually be repercussions on the gun community. But it you might want to be vocal about things to help make sure that there aren't.

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 11:20:40 AM »
I have been collecting parts to build an AR all year.  My last parts should be here on Wednesday. 

When the ban happens, no one knows what it will be like.  It may be like the 1994 ban and just ban high capacity magazines and certain accessories, or it may move all semi auto rifles to Class II.

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 11:55:09 AM »
We can hope if (and that's a BIG if) a new AWB is passed into law, all currently owned "assault weapons" would be grandfathered in and not be taken away from us. But nothing is guaranteed. Best thing to do is 1.) buy "assault weapons" now while you still can legally do so and 2.) write and call your Senators and Representatives NOW before a new AWB can take place.

BTW - just this morning Sen. Diane Feinstein said on NBC's Meet the Press that she is already drafting a new AWB bill to be introduced in the Senate next year and a new AWB bill is also being drafted in the House to be introduced next year.
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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 01:26:30 PM »
First, don't let them define the terms. Assault Rifles have been strictly controlled since 1934, as have all fully automatic or select fire firearms have been since that date. An assault rifle is select fire. There is no such thing as an "assault weapon", and here's why - the national definition of one was contained in the original AWB, which died in 2004. No such definition in national law exists at this time to the best of my knowledge.
What you want is called an MSR, or Modern Sporting Rifle. It may be semi-automatic, and have the capability of accepting detachable magazines, but it is not a military rifle. :) No military has adapted a semi-automatic rifle for general issue for at least 50 years.
OK, semantics aside, what happens to the rifle you buy is wholly up to the courts and the politicians. Don't forget New York City registered "assault rifles" years ago, and over the gun owners howls of protest, they said, "it's just so we know who to take them back to if they're stolen!" Years later, they used that same list to round them up. California did it too, with the SKS registration glitch, as SKS carbine owners were told they had a grace period to register their rifles, and then were told they missed it, please turn them in. Now.
Last, I still don't think the support is there for a general AWB, since the proof IS there that it did absolutely nothing whatsoever. Also, we have something else we didn't have back in 1994 - Supreme Court decisions in our favor, two of them so far, and now a Circuit Court of Appeals decision that the 2A applies to carry outside the home. These decisions can stand as a mighty brake on wavering politicians who might seriously fear being tied to a law that gets overturned as Un-Constitutional.
In the meantime, buy what you want/can afford, and like the cover of the book Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy says, "Don't Panic."

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 04:32:35 PM »
There was a sharp increase in gun sales since Obama's initial election.  I remember several friends and family purchasing a potentially banned firearm or stating they weren't concerned cause they already owned one and all the "evil" high cap magazines they would need.  Re enacting the Brady Bill and "assualt weapons" ban might drive up demand and prices but in the past it didn't seem that big of a deal.  Pinned stocks, smaller mags, no bayonets or flash hiders, to name a few.  I just don't feel like it really changed much.  We bought extra hi cap mags for our 10/22 and still have and use them. 


  I purchased a PTR91 several years ago and have not regretted my purchase.  Most firearms that are mil-spec in regards to design and build(not referring to a class III firearm) are standardized, very reliable and appropriate for most recreational shooting and hunting purposes.  I haven't done any hunting with a cartridge like the .308 but I would love to go to Texas and help those fine folks with their feral hog issues.  I think my HK clone would do well against that type of game.  The high capacity mags would facilitate follow up shots.

  Eventually, I would like to put a scope on it and see how it punches paper at 400m. 

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2012, 04:49:29 PM »
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and some laws restricting them go into effect next year( 2013), would it effect the gun I already have ?

As A-Man and Asimov said: "Don't panic".    There is no way to second guess their attempts to limit firearms and accessories.
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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2012, 06:56:59 PM »
Everybody on this forum should be an NRA member, if not.......NOW IS THE TIME TO JOIN !!!!!
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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2012, 07:35:27 PM »
According to the NRA/ILA, the draft Diane Feinstein already had writeen November 9th said no "Grandfathering." 

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/no-longer-camouflaging-their-agenda,-anti-gunners-start-gun-ban-plans.aspx

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 01:19:36 AM »
youre putting to much thought into it.

just buy the gun now.  you snooze you loose.

Exactly!  Get, while the getting is at least there.  No one can know what will happen politically/legislatively.
The threat of further restrictions is certainly there, as voiced by some of our Politicians.
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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 04:36:42 AM »
According to the NRA/ILA, the draft Diane Feinstein already had writeen November 9th said no "Grandfathering." 

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/no-longer-camouflaging-their-agenda,-anti-gunners-start-gun-ban-plans.aspx

That was just grandstanding for her base. She introduces those bills all the time, like at the start of every session. The media is just acting like its a new and bold stroke on her part.

Her most recent bill, written after the fact--actually, now that I think about it, she couldn't have written a bill in two days, she had it in reserve, waiting for a gun tragedy-- anyway, weapons are grandfathered in. I'm sure she'd love to pass the first bill, but there is no chance of that, and I think little chance for the new bill. I'm pretty tapped out with xmas and all, but I think I might have to get a NRA membership.

I'd be willing to be they've had a ton of donations over the past two days.

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 05:20:10 AM »
and some laws restricting them go into effect next year( 2013), would it effect the gun I already have ?

That's something nobody can tell you with certainty. The last Federal Assault Weapons Ban had a grandfather clause for existing legally owned firearms and magazines. The one Senator Feinstein is always pushing does not.

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Re: If I were to buy an assault rifle now...
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 12:15:02 PM »
According to the NRA/ILA, the draft Diane Feinstein already had writeen November 9th said no "Grandfathering." 

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/no-longer-camouflaging-their-agenda,-anti-gunners-start-gun-ban-plans.aspx

IMO that is actually a good thing - the more restrictions in her bill the less likely it is to have the support she needs.
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