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Offline Brian Ahearn

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Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:47:46 PM »
Normally I would call it a CZ clone which it is ,but this one also shares a resemblance to the EAA poly pistols. It arrived this afternoon and so far I am quite impressed with this budget gun It comes with one mag a 15 round mag not a 17 round mag that the Buds Gun shop.com. Now I already new there ads are incorrect about the mag capacity because this is not my first Sar pistol purchase from them. On a positive note fit and finish of this poly gun with 1 15 round mag is just fine and the pistols seems to be in perfect functioning condition. I will test fire it tomorrow morning at 7 and 10 yards and do some basic function rapid fire drills with it. On another positive note a 16 round Megar CZ mag locked right in so I have plenty of cz mags to run it tomorrow thoroughly with out having to stop and reload mags. I think if I mod the base of the poly grip frame slightly I could fit all of my 18 and 19 round cz mags as well.  Speaking of the grip frame its perfect for folks with small hands like myself. Last we have another Cz clone with one mag for the low price of $339.00 and it even comes with adjustable rear  sight and its very ergonomic, I like now I need to shoot,its 9mm as well ,so the wife should be able to shoot it as well.  If it shoots as good as it looks I will be a happy camper. I will get some pictures of it this weekend  when my Turk Gisran 1911 black tactical arrives . Brian / EFR
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 03:56:17 PM »
Look forward to reading your Range Report on it.  8)

SAR Pistols are modified Clones of Tanfoglio/EAA Witness Pistols, due to a past alliance with Tanfoglio. 
So far, I'm very impressed with their quality.  8)
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 10:07:17 AM »
All I can say is wow this thing is bargain at that price ,initially it shot to the left -quick adjustment of the rear sight  and was dead on at 10 yards I shot it at   a torso target with small head.  Shot one group completely in the head with no difficulty. Put a target at 25 yards and just rapid fired at it till I exhausted my supply of 16 megar mags, Cz spo1 18 rounder and 19 round megar mags. Took all my mags perfectly. Over 300 rounds down the pipe this morning flawlessly. Loved that fact that it ran all my big Cz mags no problem and the trigger is very nice for an entry level pistol.  If you are a new shooter looking for an entry level pistol with a safety this is your pistol a bargain at $339.00
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 04:44:16 PM »
Pictures of the Sar K2P with the CZ megar 19 round mag.










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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 05:29:05 PM »
I think both of them are a clone of the CZ P-01 / P-06. Either way, they are all nice guns.  8)





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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 12:55:02 AM »
Very very Nice!!!  8)  I may have to get one of those!  Look forward to reading how it shoots.

Questions

Did you test fire using the Cz 19 round magazine?

Full sub-frame in those or two Piece Rail inserts?

I think both of them are a clone of the CZ P-01 / P-06. Either way, they are all nice guns.  8)

Nope!  A Variant of the Tanfoglio Polymer framed design.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 01:19:06 AM by jwc007 »
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 08:19:47 AM »
I put 300 rounds thru it last wed flawlessly . It shot slightly  left but dead center,  a quick adjustment of the rear sight took care of that. I shot 10 and twenty yard range using 18 inch torso targets with small heads. I also used one 5 inch shoot and splat circle target at ten yards to test accuracy.  I shot a 2 and a 1/2 inch group on the circle target at ten yards semi rapid fire on the circle target after adjusting the rear sight.  I put all of the remaining ammo on the two torso targets at both ten and 25 yards. the 10 yard target developed a nice 5 inch ragged hole in the chest and then I proceeded to dole the same thing in the head.  This time of year hear in Pa my average temp when I go to the range at 8am out doors is 20 degrees or colder .  I spend about an hour an a half setting up and shooting, I wear fingerless gloves when I shoot.  My hands will get to cold so I don't screw around trying to obtain my best group. I look at general combat accuracy. This pistol exceeded my expectations.  None of my shooting was done bullseye stlye. Had there been a range officer there that morning I am sure that I would have been bitched at for my rate of fire. I had thirty Cz mags including 18 round ,18 round ,16 round and 1 Sar 15 round mag.  I slammed them in as fast as I could producing the two ragged holes on my 10 yard target = head and chest and at 25 yards my 18inch x12 inch wide  torso/head target looked like swiss cheese with 2 misses out side the outer ring.  A more than cable combat handgun which by the way did not have any malfunctions and several different ammos were used, Tomorrow I am going to run Tula ammo thru it just to see if it will handle it. For $337.00 pistol . PS I don't like poly guns, I have owned HK, FN, Glocks and the canik tp 9-sold the Hk's and FN' s still have the others but If i had to choose a poly gun to carry I would go with this one 19 round mags work safety was easy to use and I really liked the trigger my only problem is that I have to pick up a holster for it.  It beats my other poly guns in one more area I like the grip better on this handgun. Brian / EFR
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 02:41:53 PM »
Sounds like a Winner to me!  8)  Congratulations!  :)
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 05:02:09 PM »
new to the forum but has anyone found a suitable holster for the K2P?

ive been looking and cant find one

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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2013, 04:02:01 AM »
After looking at both at several shows, I think the SAR K2P is a much better executed pistol than the Witness-P. I bought a Witness-P when I could not find a K2P after the craziness started. The slide profile is different and has sharp edges along the front face which would likely destroy holsters. Also, all of the Witness-P's I have seen have really poor slide to frame fit. None have a slide that fits squarely in the frame. The lines between the rail and top of the frame begins to spread from rear to front of the dustcover. I sold my Witness-P before I even shot it because it was just such a sloppy gun and the Witness-P also has trigger serrations that were absolutely brutal to my trigger finger, and I don't have soft hands. Brian, I think you made the better choice.

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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2013, 08:15:29 AM »
Having 4 different Sar pistols and putting a lot of rounds thru them I can say the the quality of these pistols is evident. They function flawlessly and they are accurate- a little difficult to match them up with holsters,but not impossible. I will have no problem in trying out other Sar and Canik pistols ,I really like them.  Over the last year I have actually spent more time shooting Sar and Caniks than my Cz's and 1911's which have been spending more time in the safe than on the range. I am even hoping that Sar's 357 revolver makes it to the US. It just looks sharp ps i am not a revolver guy -don't own one at all ,but I would buy that one- looks like it is built very soild.
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2013, 03:19:35 PM »
I have handle a couple of these and while they feel pretty good I'm not sold on them aesthetically. Still if one were to come my way I might be tempted to pick it up anyway.
 
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2013, 08:24:10 AM »
The pic would not come up for me ,I believe you have the right one . there are pics of my sars pistols here in other posts.
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Re: Sar KP2 CZ clone or EAA Witness poly clone
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2013, 11:08:35 AM »
They list the price as $319, so that's what's throwing me off.