VZ 58 + 1 = VZ 59 ! (Picture Heavy)

[brbm2]

Hello,

I'm proud to present to you my new UK Vz. 59! 

It's a 1961 original functionnal machine gun in its light configuration role (light barrel with bypod, as opposed to mounted on tripod with heavy extended barrel). I'll try to locate in the near future the other accessories (such as scope, tripod... etc.) and I'll soon get a VZ61 and probably a CZ pistol to complete my Czech firearms pack.

Its in very good condition. I got it with a 50 rounds assault box and a 250 rounds box filled with extra 50 rounds belts. The Magpul sling and attachement rings are obviously not originals, I just added them for fun.









The organic sights.



Very convenient and flexible carrying handle.





Here are some pictures of the VZ59 semi-disassembled (the bolt and carrier are still in the receiver etc.) just to show the compactness for a light machine gun in 7.62X54R!

[huskerlrrp]

Cool! Thanks for sharing.

[armoredman]

You have this in the US? Very nice and very very rare - I didn't know there were any transferable versions here! That's the oddball that cocks by pushing forward on the entire pistol grip assembly, correct?

[brbm2]

Thanks guys 

Naaah this one is not in the US, but in Europe. Actually, they are not so difficult to find if you want one over here (and not so expensive), its just that people in most countries can't own them sadly. 
In fact, if you want I have a few hundreds of them to sell. Complete or in parts.   

[armoredman]

Thanks, but having one in the US would cost me about $300,000 in fines and 30 years prison time, bad idea. I work in prison - I DON"T want to live there! A fully transferable version of that would probably be very spendy here, as the National Registry for NFA '34 firearms, (select fire), was closed back in 1986 - everything available had to be on the Registry at that time. Someday we may get the Registry opened again, or repeal NFA '34 completely - THAT would be nice!
I also considered you might be in New Zealand - full auto can be owned, but oddly enough, never fired.
Thank you for posting pics and welcome aboard! Got any videos of your little friend firing?

[nalioth]

Very convenient and flexible carrying handle.

I don't think that was designed as a carry handle.

That's the barrel handle for changing out hot barrels (so you don't burn your hand off while doing so)

Thanks, but having one in the US would cost me about $300,000 in fines and 30 years prison time, bad idea. I work in prison - I DON"T want to live there! A fully transferable version of that would probably be very spendy here, as the National Registry for NFA '34 firearms, (select fire), was closed back in 1986 - everything available had to be on the Registry at that time. Someday we may get the Registry opened again, or repeal NFA '34 completely - THAT would be nice!
I also considered you might be in New Zealand - full auto can be owned, but oddly enough, never fired.
Thank you for posting pics and welcome aboard! Got any videos of your little friend firing?

Armoredman, I'm sure there are semiauto versions of the Vz61 floating around here in the USA.  We have some very ingenious folks and our laws allow such things.

[armed hiker]

Man!
I want one of those mounted on a sidecar.

very cool item, I wonder how ATF would feel about a de-milled one coming in? As Naolith said one in semi would almost be okay.

[armoredman]

It would have to be a completely new receiver in capable of mounting the full auto parts - "once a machinegun, always a machinegun" is the BATFE thinking. A demilled one would be basically a collection of parts with a receiver torch cut in three different places.
nalioth, I haven't seen one, but, yes, that doesn't mean there isn't one.

[southpaw.parallaxscurioa...]

Does it fire from the open bolt or closed bolt position?

Closed bolt would be a whole lot easier to make US legal (new semi reciever, a few us trigger parts).  Open bolt to closed bolt conversions rarely work right (any open bolt is considered a MG, even if semi only).

[brbm2]

Hi,

The handle also serves for the purpose you describe obviously, but also as a carrying handle. You have to use the handle while firing during tactical movements, because there's no other place to put your support hand while firing. Have a look at this picture to see what I mean.




It fires from an open bolt. I have to think about how it would be possible to convert them into close bolt semi-auto.

I have seen on the net that they were sold in the US and Canada as Kits with the receivers butchered. I have seen also a vid from one in firing in the US, so someone must have one.

We can have them deactivated or otherwise modified to fire blank ammunition only (is that legal in the US?). Also, I guess we can sell them as complete kits minus the receiver.

I have one, because when it comes to full auto we are like New Zealand. We can have them, but we can?t fire them. It?s just a collector item, so no video of me shooting it

Hey, by the way I?m not new here

[armoredman]

Yes of course.
Nope, firing blank ammo wouldn't work either, because it would still be full auto. They would have to be imported as "parts kits" minus the receiver and barrel. Get with Dan Brown of CzechpointUSA on that one - he is an expert on importation of Czech rifles into the US. That would be kinda cool to have a semi-auto belt fed version of the vz-59.

Edit to add, looks like an outfit called Historic Arms already built a semi-auto vz-59, found one on Gunbroker for $1500. Apparently there was a 7.62x51 version called the vz-68/vz 59N too, but haven't dug up any of those yet.

[jdubya87]

Marcolmar is building semi's off of kits. I think there are still kits available on gunbroker, or you can order the whole package from Marcolmar. I have one incoming, soon hopefully. I'm stoked.

http://www.marcolmarfirearms.com/

I'm wondering who is going to be building these...tempted to get a kit. Talked to a guy about them, apparently it wouldn't be hard to run them as 9mm.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/51/products_id/3278

[brbm2]

Thanks for the great info guys. 

I think I'll maybe contact them.

By the way, if any of you eventually buys one of their build, please contact me!!!

[nalioth]

Yes of course.
Nope, firing blank ammo wouldn't work either, because it would still be full auto. They would have to be imported as "parts kits" minus the receiver and barrel.

This isn't an "evil assault rifle", so I believe barrels are allowed in.

[brbm2]

Haha, yeah.

Ha, you want to know why they really hate that you use and train with them?

Simple, it's mainly because once you know how to operate and be efficient with any AR platform, you are most certainly capable of using effectively M16 and M4 assault rifles...

Well, that's especially important in a Warsaw Ghetto Uprising type situation among other things.