My Greatest fear will come with the Zimmerman verdict

[skipper]

No kidding. It is time for the "lynch mob" to pony up.

[Yer]

She will go to trial regardless

[Skookum]

The first in a series of a now 13-part series presenting Massad Ayoob's autopsy of the Zimmerman trial:

 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2013/07/13/the-zimmerman-verdict-part-1/

[armoredman]

Apparently the mother of the slain violent offender visited my state asking for our laws to be changed, as AZ SYG law may create a hostile working environment for thugs and violent felons. I urge her to leave the state for more receptive ears, such as in Chicago, NYC and San Francisco.

[Skookum]

Traymommy has decided, at least for now, to become a race-baiting gun grabber instead of returning to work, because the Miami Public Housing Department doesn't pay out in trash cans full of cash like her new calling does

.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Traymommy has decided, at least for now, to become a race-baiting gun grabber instead of returning to work, because the Miami Public Housing Department doesn't pay out in trash cans full of cash like her new calling does

.

Well she's hooked up with Al Sheep dip so maybe she can be the next Tawana Brawley.

[DenStinett]

The first in a series of a now 13-part series presenting Massad Ayoob's autopsy of the Zimmerman trial:

 http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2013/07/13/the-zimmerman-verdict-part-1/

Yesterday was part 14: The Judge
Great running commentary on the WHOLE case
Very well written
He brought-up some good points


I find it interesting that TM's Mother has a "Nonprofit" organization set-up....already ! ! !
Here are STILL some Tea Party Groups that are awaiting THEIR Nonprofit status from the IRS

[Skookum]

Deceptive Trayvon Martin Shooting Reenactment Video Released

 Legal Insurrection
 Posted by Andrew Branca
 Monday, August 19, 2013 at 7:53pm

Via Amanda Turkel at Huffington Post comes news that The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence has released a video "reenactment" of the shooting of Trayvon Martin in order to encourage people to oppose Stand Your Ground Laws.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence has released a chilling new online ad reenacting the night Travyon Martin was killed, in an effort to stop the controversial Stand Your Ground laws nationwide.

The nonprofit group uses actual audio from the 911 calls that shooter George Zimmerman and a witness made that night in Sanford, Fla. After the sound of a gunshot, people in hoodies are seen lying on the ground, and the names are displayed of the more than 20 states that have Stand Your Ground laws in place.

The group has also launched a website and a petition asking people to urge their state lawmakers to oppose this immoral legislation.

"Stand Your Ground laws have essentially legalized murder. With this PSA, we hope to add to the nationwide push to repeal these immoral laws," said CSGV Communications Director Ladd Everitt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUKzDANF6QU

The video is highly deceptive, and nothing more than a continuation of the propaganda campaign about the case.

Had they felt any affinity for the truth, they might have mentioned Martin's emerging from the darkness to fell Zimmerman with a blow the neighborhood watch volunteer never saw coming, a blow that hit with such force that it broke Zimmerman's nose, and which he described to police that same night as feeling as if he had been hit by a brick.

Had they felt any affinity for the truth, they might have mentioned Zimmerman's many and numerous injuries about the head and face, especially those caused by Martin striking Zimmerman's head on a cement sidewalk, with any single blow capable of being the one that turned Zimmerman into a drooling vegetable or simply taking his life.

Had they felt any affinity for the truth, they might have mentioned Martin's long record of school violence, his engagement in street fighting, his apparent drug use, his apparent gun dealing, and his self-expressed desire to beat his victims until they had suffered "enough."

Had they felt any affinity for the truth, they might have mentioned Zimmerman's long history of affectionate and communal relationship with black neighbors throughout his life, from his childhood to the present day, or indeed Zimmerman's own mixed-race background.

The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence tried for decades, under various guises and name changes, to seize the guns of law-abiding citizens. They failed. They tried to limit the right of the citizenry to carry arms for personal protection, they failed.

By demanding a legal duty to retreat from a felonious attacker they weaken the position of the law-abiding armed citizen who sought no fight and strengthen the hand of the felony criminal who possessed all the power to choose when, where, and how to launch his vicious attack, robbery, or rape of his intended victim.

Here is a screenshot from the video, purporting to show that the law should protect victims.



In fact, the law does protect victims. Victims like George Zimmerman, who didn't have to suffer brain injury or death before he could defend himself with deadly force.

?Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

[DenStinett]

That's some unbelievable BULL
And if they REALLY believed in their message, why are the comments blocked on UTube ? ? ?
WHY, because it's a total load of <r@p and they have no defense for it ! ! !

[papaairbear]

If the NRA doesn't respond to this I'm going to find it difficult to send them any more money.  A factual rebuttal would suffice, a vid would be even better.

[bozwell]

I'd personally rather the NRA not waste resources responding to such nonsense.  I don't think it's a particularly effective video, as the public is (for the most part) aware that more was involved in that altercation.  I think they've milked this trial for all they're going to get out of it, and that's not much.

It's also worth remembering that it's just a video on YouTube.  There are plenty of stupid videos on YouTube, many worse than this one.

[papaairbear]

I hope you're right.

[Skookum]

Let's all just be quiet about the lies the racist gun grabbers told about George Zimmerman and the law.  The next guy that's forced to use his weapon to defend himself against a felonious assault perpetrated by a young male minority (i.e., a member of a group that is responsible for half of all violent crime) can just deal with more lies of the sort on his own.

[skipper]

I find it interesting that TM's Mother has a "Nonprofit" organization set-up....already ! ! !
Here are STILL some Tea Party Groups that are awaiting THEIR Nonprofit status from the IRS

Interesting, but not surprising, with the current administration certain groups and individuals get the special fast track treatment for whatever they need. It will also be interesting to see how her donations are spent. What do you mean, cash donations?

[Skookum]

The neo-racists won't let this one go.

*****

Making Your Trayvon Martin Anger Worthwhile

The Cornell Daily Sun
August 27, 2013 By Sam Kuhn
http://www.cornellsun.com/section/opinion/content/2013/08/27/kuhn-making-your-trayvon-martin-anger-worthwhile

Times like these test the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.?s powerful pronouncement that ?the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.? Trayvon Martin?s shooting death by George Zimmerman?s gun, the difficulty with which he was brought to trial and his subsequent acquittal on all charges have justifiably generated a maelstrom of anger and confusion. These events clearly constitute a deep miscarriage of justice. What is less clear is whether this miscarriage operates only in an especially unmistakable corner of the realm of immorality, a place which is deeply unsatisfying for its formal unenforceability. The public outcry at every stage of this morbid saga has been a heartening reminder that Dr. King?s lifetime of sacrifice was not in vain ?the tradition he championed of collective civic action in the name of ameliorating injustice has clearly survived, as citizens continue to recognize that they must actively maintain whatever moral progress has been wrought in our nation?s tumultuous history.

But the moral universe is imprecisely monitored by the rigidity of the legal system. The same energetic activism which has forced this case into the national consciousness and galvanized a wide-ranging abstract discussion of morality must be turned toward more earthbound legal details. Reforming statute may lack the glamour and neat gratification of punishing a perceived bigot for his obviously evil deed. But failing to do so would mean squandering a unique opportunity to more closely align the moral and legal universes in order remove the ambiguity that ultimately sanctioned Zimmerman?s homicide. We will never know the exact sequence of events that precipitated the struggle culminating in Trayvon?s death. As the law stands, the way these events unfolded is crucial to assigning legal culpability despite Zimmerman?s own admission that he murdered the unarmed teenager. Reforming the law, then, rather than seeking to nail Zimmerman to a punishment that may not actually exist, is essential to achieving justice.

?Stand Your Ground? laws exist in various iterations in nearly half of the 50 states. Florida?s criminal code holds that ?a person ? who is attacked ? has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself.? The threat this law poses to justice is twofold: First, in privileging the shoot-first mentality which escalates conflicts everywhere the law stands, and second, in requiring juries to accommodate the unbelievable ambiguity SYG laws entail. Though we may never know in our heart of hearts how racist Zimmerman is, and punishing him for this suspected prejudice is (rightly) legally impossible, we do know that gun carriers like him in SYG states are emboldened by the knowledge that they can initiate, escalate and violently terminate conflicts. Thus, their version of the events will be the only surviving one if they have a true enough shot. It?s far easier to convince a jury that you were in real danger when the only other interested party is dead.

Meanwhile, privately-held prejudices can be acted upon and embellished into legitimate sounding defenses when examined in the context of such a non-standard of justifiable violence. A recent Urban Institute study found that in states without SYG laws, black-on-white homicides were only found to be justified 1.2 percent of the time, while white-on-black homicides were justified in 11.4 percent of reviewed cases. [3] The disparity grows in SYG states, where juries are called upon to make judgments on ambiguous criteria which are more susceptible to subjectively held preconceptions: Black-on-white homicides were found justified in 1.4 percent of cases (a statistically insignificant increase),while white-on-black justified homicides jumped almost 50 percent, to 16.9 percent of reviewed cases. As before, it?s impossible to prove that the racial disparity in homicides deemed justified is the result of juror bigotry. But to rely on such a subjective standard for determining culpability (what seems a ?reasonable? threat of harm is different for different people) is to deny that consciously or subconsciously-held biases (racial, sexual, it doesn?t matter) can pervert juror perception and fill in for evidence-based review. Abolishing SYG laws would remove this ambiguity.

The dense and tragic history of American racism starkly illustrates the fact that racial prejudices are deeply personal and widely social phenomena that cannot be comprehensively addressed by the law. But it is well within the responsibility of the law to eliminate ambiguities which give these deeply personal prejudices room to operate in the realm of legal permissibility. Earlier this month, Trayvon?s parents courageously recognized this by initiating a petition on Change.org calling on the governors of every state with SYG laws to review and amend them. [4] Changing statute as controversial as SYG laws is slow work; powerful vested interests have screwed their considerable money and influence, if not their courage, to the sticking place. Adding your name to the list will be a crucial first step in bending the legal universe back toward the moral.