I don't think this CZ exists, but WHY?!?!

[italianbreadman]

So I have yet to dive into my first CZ, but once I sell my brand new Glock 26 Gen 4 I'll be in the clutches of the Czech wonder 9.

I know exactly which one I want, too. The only problem is that it doesn't exist!!!

Basically I want a 75 Compact in alloy to lighten it up a bit.

Or a PCR with manual safety (i.e. the same thing I described above).

Is there a PCR with manual safety I'm just missing? Why wouldn't CZ make this? Is it possible to adapt a PCR into a cocked-and-locked mechanism?

Many thanks!

[TX_Southpaw]

Yea, there's the steel compact, but this guy was released week.

http://czcustom.com/czcompactlblkmanshrt.aspx

Alloy, no rail, manual safety. Combine that with a trigger job, sights, and other goodies...not bad.

[Armor Snail]

No switching a decocker to a manual safety.

There has been alloy framed compacts with safeties produced. 

Another quick and easy way to get what you want would be to buy a Canik C100.
It is a alloy framed CZ 75 Compact clone equipped with a manual safety.
 

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[Birds Away]

There are a few compacts with manual safeties and alloy frames on Gunbroker.  The best idea would be to order one directly from CZCustom.  I have an all steel compact as my EDC.  I would love to have an alloy frame model also.  Unfortunately, I also have to eat.

[Bret]

Another quick and easy way to get what you want would be to buy a Canik C100.
It is a alloy framed CZ 75 Compact clone equipped with a manual safety.

+1, I own two of the Canik C100's.  They're every bit as good as the CZ75 Compacts.

[italianbreadman]

Wow, the customs are a little out of my range. I feel like a traitor, but I'll look into the Caniks. Never heard of them before.

What would you all say is the very best CZ clone?

[Bret]

I have a pretty good collection of CZ's and clones (CZ, Canik, Armalite, EAA Witness, SAR).  From a quality, accuracy and reliability standpoint, I think they're all on par.  Really it just comes down to the features you want.  From what you've said, the aluminum framed Canik C100 is ideal.  You can buy a used manual safety CZ75 Compact with an aluminum frame provided you can find one.  However, it will likely cost you more than the new Canik C100.  If you're open to a polymer frame compact CZ clone, then the SAR B6P compact is a good option.  Now I will add this.  When it comes to customer service, CZ is ahead of the others.  Although EAA sells tons of guns, their customer service reputation is hit or miss.  The others just don't have the same presence yet.   

[italianbreadman]

Now I will add this.  When it comes to customer service, CZ is ahead of the others. 

And that's why I want to stick with CZ.

[DenStinett]

What would you all say is the very best CZ clone?

Some folks may not agree, but IMHO the Sphinx is the best CZ Clone
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22sphinx,+9mm%22&lr=&hl=en&as_qdr=all&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_gXzUYGSIcmfrAGfoICoCg&ved=0CDcQsAQ&biw=1518&bih=748

[tekarra]

The Canik C100 is very similar to the cZ 75 Compact except it is lighter.  The C100 is a fine pistol and is easier to carry over a long period.  Also, the felt recoil is little different from the cZ Compact.

[italianbreadman]

It does seem like a fine gun, that C100.

[Bret]

Now I will add this.  When it comes to customer service, CZ is ahead of the others.

And that's why I want to stick with CZ.

I have about 20 CZ clones.  The only one that I had to send back for repair was the Armalite AR-24.  Armalite fixed it.  The odds of you needing to have a CZ or a clone repaired are very slim.  It's not worth paying more for the CZ name in my opinion.  I'd recommend determining the configuration/features that you want and then determine the manufacturer.

Some folks may not agree, but IMHO the Sphinx is the best CZ Clone

But the cost is so much more than the others that it's not even in the same ballpark when it comes to making price related choice.

[italianbreadman]

Yeah. I get what you're saying, Bret. Te design is pretty rock-solid to begin with and I rarely hear of anything going catastrophically wrong with CZs (aside from EAA and the Witness). But it's good to get the consensus on the examples that seem to have better build quality. The customer service comment was more an expression of my own insecurity when spending hundreds of dollars on an item.

If you were forced to recommend one manufacturer, who would it be?

[Bret]

If you were forced to recommend one manufacturer, who would it be?

That's just it, I wouldn't approach it that way.  I'd first decide the configuration that I wanted and then I'd consider the available choices.  For example, if I want a no frills steel framed 10mm CZ type pistol, then a steel framed EAA Witness is pretty much the only option available.  On the other hand, if I want a no frills steel framed 9mm CZ type pistol, then they all make one.  I personally consider the base model steel framed EAA Witness to be a better value than the CZ75B (base model CZ).  I paid $325 for mine when a CZ75B could be purchased for $425.  Sometimes it also comes down to what's available at the moment as supply of different models can be spotty.  The good thing about choosing one of these pistols is that there pretty much isn't a wrong answer.  You'll get one and then you'll get another and then you'll get another, you get the idea.  If you do decide that you don't like a particular one, then you can sell it and recover most of your money.

Given the features that you described in your initial post, I'm convinced the Canik C100 is your best option.  However, your money is hard earned and you have not shot the veriety of CZ/clones that I have, so I can understand the apprehension.  Just keep asking questions and we'll keep answering them until you're confident enough to pull the trigger (pun intended)

[italianbreadman]

Looking at Canik (TriStar), I came across the T-100 also.  How does everyone feel that compares to the C-100?

Is it basically the same thing with Jericho looks?