SP-01 Handling vs standard CZ-75 Profile

[IDescribe]

I?m curious to hear from anyone who has shot both the SP-01?s and standard 75 profiled pistols (whether the B nose or the 85 nose, either way) how they handle differently.  I know that the extra weight at the SP-01?s nose is supposed to reduce muzzle-flip, and the absence of that weight is supposed to provide the standard 75?s with slightly faster transitions.  That?s what happens in theory anyway.

I was curious to hear from anyone who has actually shot both competitively if they actually handle all that differently in practice.  Do you notice those differences?  And if so, are the differences significant?
 

[bigdave24]

I have the SP-01 Shadow and 75 Shadow.  The SP-01 has noticeably less muzzle flip.  I'm not really sure about the transitions, since the less muzzle flip let's me get the sights back on a target sooner.

[Magsz]

Slide velocity is more important than muzzle weight in MY mind.  Now, the only caveat to that statement is that at extremes, yes a heavier muzzle is usually "better".

Still, i like a "balance" pun intended to my guns in regard to weight bias.

I find that there is no appreciable benefit to the heavier SP01 when it comes to actually shooting.  I also do not find a noticable difference in TIMES between either gun when it comes to transitions but i DO subjectively feel as though the 75 is easier to start and stop on target.

Pick what you prefer and roll with it.  IF you know what you LIKE then you will shoot either gun exceedingly well.

For ME, the SP01's slide profile is more desirable than the CZ75's so i opted to make those my warhorses.

Having said that.  I am considering a P09 or a Shadowline for steel/action steel because of the subjective notion of easier transitions.

[Stuart]

Will really depend on your preference on how the gun feels.
For me both guns shoot about the same as far as time on clock.
Been awhile since I tested this, and when I did I was shooting as lot more.

The lighter gun has a little more snap to the recoil, but sprung right, it snaps right back onto target. Some adjustment in grip pressure and tension was needed.
When shooting a lot , I went back and forth between my Shadows and 75B stainless. Didn't really find that I shot one better over the other.
Just my experience.

[IDescribe]

Thanks, Dave.

i DO subjectively feel as though the 75 is easier to start and stop on target.

Feels that way, but nothing significant in times.  That's exactly the sort of thing I'm wondering.

Pick what you prefer and roll with it.  IF you know what you LIKE then you will shoot either gun exceedingly well.

That's just it.  I haven't fired and SP-01.   

I am considering a P09 or a Shadowline for steel/action steel because of the subjective notion of easier transitions.

I, too, may pick up a P-09.  I currently have a full-size Shadowline.  She's a good girl, but for some reason CZ hasn't submitted the paperwork to make her production legal.

[twowheels]

I've got both a 75 shadow and an sp 01 shadow (lucky guy eh?).  I got the sp 01 first and shot if for a good long while before picking the 75.  After shooting the 75 for a couple sessions, it became my favorite as it felt better balanced in my hand.  However, I recently shot the sp 01 for a couple sessions and I have shifted back to it, at least for the moment.  My last IDPA with it went well.

Honestly, I don't think I shoot one better than the other.  If I really think about it, I could say the sp 01 recoils a tad less and the 75 transitions a little better.  But really, the differences in how they shoot are slight.  They both shoot great, and the similarities are far greater than the minor differences.

     

[IDescribe]

Will really depend on your preference on how the gun feels.
For me both guns shoot about the same as far as time on clock.
Been awhile since I tested this, and when I did I was shooting as lot more.

The lighter gun has a little more snap to the recoil, but sprung right, it snaps right back onto target. Some adjustment in grip pressure and tension was needed.
When shooting a lot , I went back and forth between my Shadows and 75B stainless. Didn't really find that I shot one better over the other.

Thanks, Stuart.  My guess is that they'll handle similarly.  I just was just curious to see if people would note a big difference.  Sounds like not a whole lot.   

[IDescribe]

Honestly, I don't think I shoot one better than the other.  If I really think about it, I could say the sp 01 recoils a tad less and the 75 transitions a little better.  But really, the differences in how they shoot are slight.  They both shoot great, and the similarities are far greater than the minor differences.

Thanks for that.  It's what I expected to hear, and to be honest, it's kind of what I wanted to hear.  I want to know I can go either route on my next purchase and not be disappointed.

[Stuart]

Will really depend on your preference on how the gun feels.
For me both guns shoot about the same as far as time on clock.
Been awhile since I tested this, and when I did I was shooting as lot more.

The lighter gun has a little more snap to the recoil, but sprung right, it snaps right back onto target. Some adjustment in grip pressure and tension was needed.
When shooting a lot , I went back and forth between my Shadows and 75B stainless. Didn't really find that I shot one better over the other.

Thanks, Stuart.  My guess is that they'll handle similarly.  I just was just curious to see if people would note a big difference.  Sounds like not a whole lot.   

You will feel the difference and the gun will recoil differently, but the difference on the clock will be minimal for most shooters.
So it will be possible that you will have a preference for one or the other and I think this is really were it will lie. your preference.
I dont think you will be able to chart one gun performing better or worse for a group of shooters consistently.

if that makes sense.

[Magsz]

That's a shame...

Your shadowline has the best of both worlds, ie lighter slide, beavertail and a beveled magwell.

The standard CZ75 cannot compete with the SP01 as far as ergonomics so that is something to keep in mind.

[Tater313]

I do not notice a difference between the 2, both are right back on target.  The one thing I liked better then the 75B was the stock sights, but after replacing them with CZC sights much better.

[IDescribe]

That's a shame...

Your shadowline has the best of both worlds, ie lighter slide, beavertail and a beveled magwell.

Exactly.   She's a fine gun.   And she's been run a lot.  I've just finished some internal work on her and going to add the Comp hammer.  So now I'm thinking about picking up an 85 Combat and tricking it out myself, or an SP-01 Shadow.  OR a Tanfo.  Unfortunately, none of the options are always available, so when it comes time to pull the proverbial trigger a few weeks down the line, it may come down to what's available.

[s0nspark]

The standard CZ75 cannot compete with the SP01 as far as ergonomics so that is something to keep in mind.

Could you elaborate? I have yet to get my hands on an SP-01 but love my 75BD...

[1SOW]

The standard CZ75 cannot compete with the SP01 as far as ergonomics so that is something to keep in mind.

As Stuart said,  I believe "ergonomics" is relative to each individual shooter.

I have a worked 75B, a 75 Shadow Custom and my son has the SPO1 Shadow with the Comp hammer.  I bought the 75 Shadow Custom LAST to get the pistol that best suits ME.
I can shoot all three adequately  (for an old guy ),  but liked the 75B for big target transitions.   I can draw and shoot the lighter front-end gun just very slightly faster,  but I have short fingers and a smallish strong hand. I also like my son's SPO1 Shadow for multiple shots on one target--like gongs.  As Stuart said, recoil springs can be adjusted to get "similar" results with the lighter front-end pistol.

I got the 75 Shadow as MY compromise, and it worked. It has the full length guide steel rod and heavier bbl,  but not the weight of the tac-rail and full dustcover.  The balance is not as far forward.   I prefer this pistol over the other two for all-around shooting.

All these statements were started with "I, ME, MY or similar";  and that's the bottom line.  Every  shooter will have their own personal preferences.
They are ALL potentially great shooting pistols.

[Magsz]

The standard CZ75 cannot compete with the SP01 as far as ergonomics so that is something to keep in mind.

Could you elaborate? I have yet to get my hands on an SP-01 but love my 75BD...

The standard 75 does not have a beveled magwell, nor does it feature the superior beavertail.  There are other arguable differences like the smaller magazine release on the standard 75 as well.

That is what i mean by ergonomics.