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Offline PodPeople

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Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« on: March 03, 2014, 09:37:24 PM »
...it is to keep the grips on your gun after you have broken the screw trying to change out the grips.  :(





I was trying to install the CZ rubber grips.  The hole didn't quite line up and I ended up boogering up the threads.  I'm taking the gun to a gunsmith to see if he can drill out the broken off grip screw and re-tap the hole threads.  I think from now on I'll just stick with whatever grips come on a gun.

Offline da/sa fanatic

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 09:47:04 PM »
Bummer! I had better luck with my new Lava grips. ( see the "grips for Tristar T-120" thread" ) The maker made the adjustment for Caniks.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 11:21:55 PM »
Bummer.  I noticed that the screws were hard to line up/start also. Ran them in and out a couple of times without the grips in the way to cleanup the threads some.

Have you looked at this thread in Gunsmithing by Schmeky?  It's not that hard of a fix. If you have a drill and a dremel you are set. I did a set in a 1911 and it worked great.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=29483.0
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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 11:46:36 PM »
I think the screws on my grips have adopted a non-factory angle. Threads are solid, just...a little weird. It doesn't affect my grip panels, as they were carved while using those screws. The plastics won't crack if you don't alter them. But easy to crack them if they've been slimmed down. Not a bad method, though...you can come out with plastic grips as thin as the aluminum racer-looking panels. They need to be reinforced on the inside if you do them really thin, though.

I did not find the rubber band useful on the Tristar, but I had it wrapped around a Kahr. All the Hogue-esque grip sleeves were too bulky, so I simply stretched that around the grip, about a quarter of the way up, and it made a nice little extra palm swell and psuedo finger-grooves (acted as a good guide for my fingers, I guess. Helped draw.)

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 09:40:04 AM »
Have you looked at this thread in Gunsmithing by Schmeky?  It's not that hard of a fix. If you have a drill and a dremel you are set. I did a set in a 1911 and it worked great.

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=29483.0
The links to pictures in that post have expired so I can't see exactly how he did it.  My situation is a lot worse than his in that my grip screw is broken off in the frame.  At this point I don't want to mess the gun up any more than I already have -- I am not very mechanically inclined.  The gunsmith I am taking it to has a drill press.  He is highly regarded in my area and specializes in 1911s -- he was once an IPSC world champion.  I'm also taking him my American Classic II 1911 to see if he can modify the slide stop so it can be more easily inserted.  I am going to print out the Schmeky thread and give it to him.  Thanks!

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 12:50:58 PM »
Check CDNN for replacement screws.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 01:09:37 PM »
They sell a bit for your drill that removes broken and stripped screws. I believe it costs like 20 bucks. Besides that you would need a tap for the next size screw and the screw itself. That's a few dollars more. Just to give you a price comparison when you get a price from the gun smith.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 11:27:19 PM »
If a broken screw is not crossthreaded, use a small left-hand bit to grab it and spin it out. If it's crossthreaded, drill the whole thing.  A small extractor on something with wrecked threads just leads to a broken extractor. And those are harder to drill out than pot metal screws. And if you actually succeed with the extractor...all the thread are gone, anyway, and you still need to drill/tap oversize.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2014, 05:48:51 AM »
It's kinda hard to tell in the picture but it looks like there might be enough of the screw sticking out of the metal to get a quality pair of vise grips on it and simply unscrew it. Like I said though; hard to tell for sure in this picture.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 09:14:08 PM »
Nice looking pistol.  I have the L-120 and installed two different sets of grips on mine one a wooden set from Hogue and other set from VZ.  Both installed fine and looked great.  The magazine rubs little on the inside of the grip.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 02:30:47 PM »
The magazine rubs little on the inside of the grip.

A little sanding will solve that issue. Your magazines should drop free!
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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2014, 09:04:56 AM »
Just got my gun back from the gunsmith.  He removed the broken grip screw, retapped the threads one size larger, and installed new stainless grip screws on both sides.  He said they were now standard 1911 style threads.  ;D

He was also very impressed with the gun's workmanship.

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Re: Now I know the purpose of those TriStar rubber bands...
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2014, 02:28:13 PM »
Just got my gun back from the gunsmith.  He removed the broken grip screw, retapped the threads one size larger, and installed new stainless grip screws on both sides.  He said they were now standard 1911 style threads.  ;D

He was also very impressed with the gun's workmanship.

Glad to read that you got it repaired!  8)
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