Author Topic: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning (Now with 25% more Range Report!).  (Read 9868 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Hello everyone,

  As of today, I am new to your forum but I look forward to contributing here.  A few days ago I was a awarded a pistol "permit".  You see, I live in New York City... where they require such things.  I digress.  The pistol I chose as my very first was the CZ-75b Omega.  During the absolutely infinite wait of the NYC permit process, I had a lot of time to research and I even took a few trips out to Pennsylvania(the closest free state) to rent and shoot a variety of possible first pistols.

I fired many .45s, thinking I would be settling on a PX4 Storm or a HK45... but... then I picked up a beat-up CZ- 75BD "Police".  It was a tack driver... and despite the weight, it fit my hands like a glove... no, like a mold... no... more like my hand was the reference point they used during this pistol's design stages... seeing as I was born in '84... I believe time travel was involved.  Anyhow, I know this won't be news to many on these forums... but that gun just felt right.  Instantly, I knew what my first handgun would be.


These were my very first five rounds with the BD Police... good first impression.

Since my trip to the range in PA... I began researching the 75.  I already knew a bit about it, I always thought the way the slide mated to the frame was genius...  For a while I was settled on an SP01... thinking an even LONGER unbroken slide would improve even more on the pistol's excellent overall accuracy and controllably.  The light rail was a nice  touch as well.  Then, I stumbled upon the Omega... after a bit of reading, I thought the idea of a simplified trigger that was reportedly cleaner and smoother would be the way to go.  Combined with the Omega's price tag and absolutely classic looks, I was smitten.  And thus, I give you:


My CZ-75b Omega.

Okay, I have recently had a chance to hit the range.  As expected, the CZ-75b Omega is a great shooter.  I found it very accurate at 25 feet.  Keep in mind, readers; I am next to amateur when it comes to pistols.  Don't expect the following to sound especially professional.  I don't know enough about trigger creep or muzzle flip to accurately evaluate the Omega, technically speaking, but I have shot quite a few handguns (both through renting and squeezing a few rounds off from a friends' or family member's pistol).  Of everything I have ever  handled, the CZ-75 feels the best.  I shoot more accurate with it, then any other pistol I have ever fired.  It's the most fun, as well, yeah, I said it. I do have enough experience with the major pistol calibers to appreciate the unbelievably low recoil and excellent control.  I did, however experience a failure to feed!  Something I have always thought to be a myth with a CZ.   I blame the NY compliant 10 round mags I am forced to use!   :-\

The first issue I had with the Omega... was moments after I finished joining my new gun club.  I was asked, "What are you shooting?", "Why, a CZ-75!" I replied.  For the rest of my time at the club/range... different members kept approaching me, asked politely if they can hold/see/shoot/take a picture of my 75.  That's right, there is an unofficial picture out there, somewhere, of my beloved handgun.  That okay, I'll beat him to the publish:


@ 25 feet.  147 grain Federal Jacketed Flat Noses.  Not bad for a novice... I think?!

Okay, I'm lying, the above was not an issue.  I am a ham, so, I eat the attention up.  During the shoot, I was able to group fairly easily.  Keep in mind I was standing, freehand and firing rather quickly, only pausing for a moment in between shots.  The pistol was so easy to control, my sights were back on target so fast, I may have gotten carried away... caulk it up to my giddiness in having a new toy.  I am no expert on sights but I feel the Omega needs a better set.  Where the sights were accurate, I really felt like the "Glow in the dark" paint... is hard to pick-up in regular lighting conditions ... and they don't, well, glow in the dark.  Regardless, I had a blast and felt I did fairly well for my first outing with the CZ-75b Omega.

My Omega is basically stock.  I did receive and install a Bedair Stainless Steel Guide Rod, two hours before I left for the range.  Side note, here: Steve Bedair was awesome.  He E-mailed me, personally, to thank me for the order and to let me know he would be shipping it the next morning, it arrived two days later.  In such a heavy gun, I felt no difference in weight.  I am still happy I bought it... now, all I need is a thin aluminium grip and I will have an ALL metal pistol.  bleep... if I ever had to, I can always beat the piss out of a bad guy with this thing.

I am going to end it here for now, I will be continuing in a day or two...
« Last Edit: April 05, 2014, 11:57:56 PM by superfluidity »

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 12:42:30 PM »
I noticed something odd about my shiny (well, as shiny as the polycoat finish can be), new CZ Omega.  The rear of the slide, that is, the area behind the hammer... seems to have gaps.  Allow me to admit, I am new to the pistol world, so I may be totally off base here.  It is difficult for me, to explain the above mentioned "gap" in written word.  So, I took pictures:





Notice the large gap?  I am no expert... but it just seemed off to me.  With a light source behind me, I am able to actually see the top round in the magazine.  When there is no cartridge in the battery, I can see straight through the barrel and out the back of the gun.  It is abundantly obvious with a light source behind the hammer, as I gaze stupidity into the barrel.



Peek-a-boo


Once I took the pistol apart; I noticed two specific elements of the trigger group that seemed to match up with this grand canyon of a gap.  These two parts, one on the left and one opposite, passed through with little room to spare.  So, I do see the purpose... but I can't help but feel; during firing, gas and particles could escape through this gap and... harmlessly deflect off my glasses?  Well, you get what I mean.


I am no expert, but when I compare the rear of my gun to the rear of a standard 75b, I see much less of a gap...



(ignore the silly Glock)


I know I am likely being paranoid... I just thought, if there were a place on the inter-webs that COULD calm my silly nerves, this WOULD be it.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 12:45:02 PM by superfluidity »

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
A few Extras
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 11:52:53 PM »
I am thinking of ordering a few things from the CZ custom shop...

1. Thin (my hands or medium small) aluminum grips, with Aggressive checkering: http://czcustom.com/cz_75-thin-grips-aggressive-checker.aspx

2. Tru Dot Tritium Night Sights (... because... well, CZ standard sights... sorta suck):  http://czcustom.com/trudotnightsights4.aspx

3.A stainless guide rod: http://czcustom.com/cz75steelguiderodshort.aspx


With shipping and all, the price tag is $220.  Worth it?  What do you guys think?

Offline AVG

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 75
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 08:44:46 AM »
Welcome from Florida. As an x New Yorker I know what you are going thru. That's why I left after retiring from my city job. That was 23 years ago. You bought a great gun. I am also new here their are many well informed people on this forum that can help you out.

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 09:07:55 AM »
Welcome from Florida. As an x New Yorker I know what you are going thru. That's why I left after retiring from my city job. That was 23 years ago. You bought a great gun. I am also new here their are many well informed people on this forum that can help you out.

Is that so?  I am currently a city electrician.  I work for NYCHA...small world.  23 years retired?  That is fantastic! I have longer than that before I retire... heh... 26 years to go.  Thank you for your response... I wasn't sure I would get any.

Offline gdawgs56

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1438
The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 01:00:50 PM »
Welcome to the forum! I have a SP01 and there is a small gap, but Im not sure if it's the same as on yours. I'm sure someone will chime in that actually has an Omega!

About your order to CZ Custom, in my opinion, I wouldn't get the tritium sights if you are mostly going to use it as a range gun. If you use it for home defense they are great, but the Competion sights that CZ Custom sells or the EZ Drift sights that Cajun Gun Works sell are much better for range use. They don't cover up the target as much as the tritium sights do. Just my opinion, cuz many people love the tritium sights.
CZ75 SP-01 Tactical Custom 9mm
MP 9mm 2.0
Glock 19

Offline Omega 7

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 65
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 01:42:59 PM »
I noticed that gap the other week when I found an Omega at a gun show.  It's because the extractor on those guns was redesigned for the Omega trigger assembly.  I think the extractor is listed as part 10 in your owners manual (I compared yours with my BD manual).  On older guns like my 75BD that gap is filled by a part of the older model extractor.  I posted about it last week and another guy mentioned that those gaps will be around until CZ uses up their current inventory of older model slides.

I had been seriously looking into buying an Omega like yours until I noticed that part of the slide.  I went with a P-07 instead, as it's better suited for carry and has the same trigger system (but does not have that gap).

I'm not a ballistics expert, but I'm pretty sure your chances of getting crud blown back through the slide into your face are slim to none.  Unless your weapon suffers some sort of catastrophic failure like a round exploding, all of the GSR should be focused out the barrel by the laws of motion.

I'm more concerned about grit or something getting into the slide from the rear.  It wouldn't be a problem for a range gun indoors, but if you're wearing the thing around outside it would likely be carried vertically.  All it would take is some wind and the usual gravity to dump grit straight down through the length of the slide, especially if you had an empty chamber.  That's a personal preference though.  I still think it's a fine gun, just less suited for my operating environment.

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 09:46:35 PM »
Thanks guys, I feel much better about the gap.  I can't wait to shoot the bleep thing.

Offline gdawgs56

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1438
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 09:49:59 PM »

Thanks guys, I feel much better about the gap.  I can't wait to shoot the bleep thing.

Make sure you take pics and give us a range report! :)


CZ75 SP-01 Tactical Custom 9mm
MP 9mm 2.0
Glock 19

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Range Report to come and Bedair Guide Rod on the way.
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2014, 10:41:24 AM »
I will definitely be joining a local gun club, this weekend.  I will write a nice range report with pictures.  Also, I just ordered a Bedair Steel Guide Rod...

Offline Omega 7

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 65
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2014, 12:58:17 PM »
Sounds good.  I look forward to hearing how it shoots.  What did that piece cost anyway?

Offline superfluidity

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2014, 01:30:48 PM »
Sounds good.  I look forward to hearing how it shoots.  What did that piece cost anyway?

$500 before tax.... nothing to write home about.  Keep in mind: I live in New York City where anything mildly related to weaponry costs a mint.  *Grumbles* God bleeped 10 round magazines... *grumbles*

Offline reshp1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 223
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2014, 03:16:44 PM »
The gap is to clear the ejector when taking the slide off. Field strip your slide and you'll see the ejector slip through this gap.

Offline muggia59

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1428
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 07:43:40 PM »
Just bought this gun myself a few weeks ago. Think you will love it. To love it even more do the Cajungunworks spring and firing pin upgrade. They also seem to have the cheapest 75 Meprosights Ive been able to find. Ive only put a couple hundred rounds thru mine, but I experienced no blowback. Glad you were able to get your pistol permit in New York. Enjoy and welcome.
CZ SP01 Tactical, CZ SP01 Phantom, CZ P07, CZP01, CZCadet kit, CZ Scorpion EVO S1.

Offline afultz075

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 219
Re: The CZ-75b Omega, my beginning.
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 03:06:21 PM »
I love the concept of the CZ-75B Omega, I just wish they would make the controls ambidextrous and interchangeable with a decocker like the P07/P09. Hopefully someday.