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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #360 on: March 08, 2015, 04:31:26 PM »
endless enigma -- there will be more
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #361 on: March 09, 2015, 05:39:11 PM »
03/09/2015 at 4:39 pm central time PSA showing 208 on hand

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #362 on: March 09, 2015, 07:01:05 PM »
I ordered one, great experience with PSA, had to call to confirm FFL dealer next day, five minutes later they were shipping my rifle.

Unfortunately though it got delayed when UPS lost track of where the package was.

But I got it now and shot it yesterday, need to do some minor work to it though, since it jammed a lot using PPU SP rounds. I ordered FMJ rounds but they were not in yet.

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #363 on: March 09, 2015, 07:05:21 PM »
I ordered one, great experience with PSA, had to call to confirm FFL dealer next day, five minutes later they were shipping my rifle.

Unfortunately though it got delayed when UPS lost track of where the package was.

But I got it now and shot it yesterday, need to do some minor work to it though, since it jammed a lot using PPU SP rounds. I ordered FMJ rounds but they were not in yet.
Jammed using PPU SP?  That's interesting. Check your head space? Should eat anything I believe.
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #364 on: March 10, 2015, 05:17:07 PM »
I ordered one, great experience with PSA, had to call to confirm FFL dealer next day, five minutes later they were shipping my rifle.

Unfortunately though it got delayed when UPS lost track of where the package was.

But I got it now and shot it yesterday, need to do some minor work to it though, since it jammed a lot using PPU SP rounds. I ordered FMJ rounds but they were not in yet.
Jammed using PPU SP?  That's interesting. Check your head space? Sould eat anything I believe.

Yeah something's off. Mine shoots FMJ, HP, SP, no problem.

Could also be a mag issue. Have you tried other mags? One of mine has feed-lip issues and always causes rounds to hit below the chamber.
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #365 on: March 13, 2015, 08:51:55 PM »
$399  holy crap if i lived in the states i'd have three ....  RIGHT NOW
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #366 on: March 13, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »
I just bought my first one from Palmetto....can't wait to get it!

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #367 on: March 14, 2015, 11:14:09 AM »
My first post here!

Just stumbled onto this forum when doing research on the recent VZ2008s from PSA.

NO CREDIT CARDS and money in the bank.   I'm in for one !!!   Whoot Whoot !!!

Hope to learn about accuracy and performance differences wi AKs.   Probably all I'll do to this is mount a matching wood - board stock and side rail for optics.  Hate most collapsing or side folding wire type stocks.

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #368 on: March 16, 2015, 12:16:39 AM »
I just received mine from PSA.   Trigger gremlin showed up a few rounds into the second mag.  Aint gonna mess wi sending it back to PSA although I probably ought to tell them about it.  Fortunately my machinist buddy was there and well familiar with the mod needed.  I let him take it home for tab extension.
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #369 on: March 21, 2015, 09:25:15 PM »
I got to shoot my VZ2008 today.  What a great gun, I have three AK47's and I have to say this gun may be better for several reasons, anyway I placed another order for another one.     :)

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #370 on: March 21, 2015, 09:44:37 PM »
I got to shoot my VZ2008 today.  What a great gun, I have three AK47's and I have to say this gun may be better for several reasons, anyway I placed another order for another one.     :)

Yes sir!  Another convert. Welcome to the club. ;D
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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #371 on: March 22, 2015, 08:58:59 PM »
I finally got to take my VZ2008 out for it's maiden voyage. I was using Red Army Standard ammo.  I couldn't get on the 200 yard range and had to settle for the 50 yard. I set up at 25 yards to start. The First 3 shot group was 4" high centered on the target with them all touching. Without making any adjustments to the sights I tried a 6 o'clock hold and kept adjusting my sight picture until I was hitting the bullseye. Which ended up being putting the bullseye even with the top of the front sight ears.
I then tried the 50 yard line and was barely nipping the top of the target - 6-7" high! I adjusted the front sight for elevation (2 complete counter clockwise turns). I was now hitting black, but about 4" high. I did not want to adjust anymore until I can use the longer range. Trying again at 25 yards I was 2" high. This rifle was just simply amazing at these shorter distances with how well it shot! As long I did my part this rifle was up to the task at hand.
 Any suggestions on where I can access some trajectory charts to see where I should be at using this sight in information?
The rifle functioned flawlessly, no issues at all. I do have to say that my support hand was very dirty from the gasses being vented out. The cleaning of the rifle showed the ammo to be very dirty overall. My only concern was the amount of patches I used down the bore and it still seemed to pull some green residue from I assume was the copper jacketed bullets. I wasn't confident that it was as clean as I normally get my rifles after a trip to the range or field.
Overall I was very impressed with the rifle and it proved to be more accurate at the shorter ranges right out of the box for all but 1 of my 3 ARs.

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #372 on: March 24, 2015, 02:23:36 PM »
I finally got to take my VZ2008 out for it's maiden voyage. I was using Red Army Standard ammo.  I couldn't get on the 200 yard range and had to settle for the 50 yard. I set up at 25 yards to start. The First 3 shot group was 4" high centered on the target with them all touching. Without making any adjustments to the sights I tried a 6 o'clock hold and kept adjusting my sight picture until I was hitting the bullseye. Which ended up being putting the bullseye even with the top of the front sight ears.
I then tried the 50 yard line and was barely nipping the top of the target - 6-7" high! I adjusted the front sight for elevation (2 complete counter clockwise turns). I was now hitting black, but about 4" high. I did not want to adjust anymore until I can use the longer range. Trying again at 25 yards I was 2" high. This rifle was just simply amazing at these shorter distances with how well it shot! As long I did my part this rifle was up to the task at hand.
 Any suggestions on where I can access some trajectory charts to see where I should be at using this sight in information?
The rifle functioned flawlessly, no issues at all. I do have to say that my support hand was very dirty from the gasses being vented out. The cleaning of the rifle showed the ammo to be very dirty overall. My only concern was the amount of patches I used down the bore and it still seemed to pull some green residue from I assume was the copper jacketed bullets. I wasn't confident that it was as clean as I normally get my rifles after a trip to the range or field.
Overall I was very impressed with the rifle and it proved to be more accurate at the shorter ranges right out of the box for all but 1 of my 3 ARs.

I zero in my 7.62x39 rifles by putting the rear sight on the universal notch in back and aiming center of mass (COM) at 25 yards. At that distance, COM will provide a quick and reliable hit.

Then for 100 yards, I set the sight to the 100 meter notch, but instead of COM, I use "6 o'clock hold" or "pumpkin on the post".  This works well for two reasons:  First, the front sights on these rifles are so fat that at 100 yards they obliterate anything smaller than a 10" plate.  Lowering the sight and placing the target right on top enables the target to be seen -- it "emerges" from the sight.  Secondly, the 7.62x39 trajectory has quite an arc to it; shooting to 100 yards by using a 25 yard zero, the point of impact will be too high.  By going from a COM to 6 o'clock hold, not only is the target now visible, but the rifle and therefore the point of impact is lowered.  I've found that it takes lowering the sight to the 100 meter notch to fully compensate for the bullet's arc as just going from a COM to a 6 o'clock hold is not quite enough.
 
Set up like this, I can consistently hit a target both at 25 and 100 yards.  At 25 yards, COM is instinctive as that's they way I learned with handguns.  At 100 yards, 6 o'clock hold is instinctive for no other reason than that's the only way I can actually see the target.  At 50 yards, it's just an estimation in between which is also instinctive since that's when the front sight starts to obliterate the target and the sight is lowered just enough to see.  The trajectory will follow.

I don't have the opportunity to shoot past 100 yards, but I suspect that moving the rear sight ladder to correspond to the target's distance and using 6 o'clock hold will work well.

Keep in mind this is not 1 MOA shooting, especially with iron sights.  This will, however, enable you to consistently hit pie-plate sized targets, and definitely man-sized ones.

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #373 on: March 24, 2015, 04:12:03 PM »

 Any suggestions on where I can access some trajectory charts to see where I should be at using this sight in information?

Just google for "7.62x39 ballistics" and you'll find a bunch of charts and info.

For my VZ, I generally use a 50m/100m zero and leave the rear sight at the U setting, using a sight tool to adjust the front til I'm on target. If I'm on target at 50, I'm on at 100 as well, with minimal rise in POI between the two. I use the "pumpkin-on-a-post" sight picture.

That's good enough for me. I handed my rifle to a friend who had never shot it and he nailed a 1lb can of tannerite at 50M with his 1st shot. Then he went and bought 5 VZs!

If I want to be on target further out, to 200m, I zero at 25m. Again, I just leave the rear sight all the way back. This will give a max rise in POI of about 4 inches at the top of the arc between 25m and 200m.

Like TJNewton, I'm not expecting MOA  here, but the VZ easily hits what I'm shooting at.

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Re: Palmetto State Armory CZ2008 sale....
« Reply #374 on: March 24, 2015, 05:52:06 PM »
VZ58 military manual has proper sight in instructions.  Somewhere on these boards is a link to the sight in target there w/ proper dimensions too...