97B Rear Sight Help

[cpanos]

I am new to the forum and fairly new to CZs.  I've always had mainly a HK guy.  I recently purchased a 75SA and modified by using CGW's items and was so pleased I went out a purchased a new 97B glossy blue.  It has the factory fiber optic front sight and I was hoping to replace the rear sight with a Dawson (all black) E-Z/D rear sight from CGW.  After I pushed out the original sight I compared it to the new one.  Unfortunately the sight I received was much too short (.080") compared to the original sight.  CGW told me that it was not compatible with my 97.  I am a bit confused because their web site says that the E-Z/D-97 is regulated (not sure what this means) for a 97.  Does anyone know of another source for a rear sight that can be used with the factory F/O sight? 

[Tok36]

First thing i would do is call or email David at CGW and ask him to explain things further. I am sure he would be glad to help, he always has any time i have needed his assistance.

I am sorry i cannot answer your question but have you considered changing the front sight as well. If you were able to remove the rear sight the hard part is done. The front sights are a snap to replace. It might just be easier to buy a matching front Dawson for the rear you already have, then they will work together.

Regulated pertains to a set of sights that are designed or calibrated to the pistol in witch they are to be installed. In other words they will be sized correctly to shoot point of aim on a specific pistol. In your case the Dawson rear sight is regulated to work with a specific  Dawson front sight for a CZ 97, but the Dawson rear sight you obtained is not regulated for the stock CZ97 FO front sight. A single sight front or back cannot be regulated by its self. To regulate a sight one needs to know what front or rear sight it is to be regulated to work with and on what pistol.

[chaps]

Regulated pertains to a set of sights that are designed or calibrated to the pistol in witch they are to be installed. In other words they will be sized correctly to shoot point of aim on a specific pistol. In your case the Dawson rear sight is regulated to work with a specific  Dawson front sight for a CZ 97, but the Dawson rear sight you obtained is not regulated for the stock CZ97 FO front sight. A single sight front or back cannot be regulated by its self. To regulate a sight one needs to know what front or rear sight it is to be regulated to work with and on what pistol.

Thank you for that explanation; I wondered what that meant when I saw the sight on CGW.

[cpanos]

Tok36, funny you mentioned talking with CGW.  Everyone on the this forum has had great luck with CGW.  I have had three interactions with CGW and all but one of them did not end well.  I had originally emailed CGW and asked for a list of parts that I would need to convert my new 97 to SA.  I also stated that I had the newer model with the F/O front sight and that I'd like to use if I could.   CGW promptly emailed a list of parts I would need including a note about how the E-Z/D rear sight would work perfectly with my factory F/O.  I ordered the parts and notice the height difference after I pushed off the factory rear sight.  I emailed CGW immediately and was informed that the CGW website clearly stated that the rear sight I ordered would not fit a 97 but that they had a Mepro rear site that I could exchange it for.  You can image that by this time i was totally confused.  I went back onto their website to try figure it out and noticed that they did sell a Dawson site for a 97 and had no Mepro sight listed for a 97.  I emailed CGW and asked them to please explain things to me because I was not comprehending what I was reading.  I attached the original email where they stated that E-Z/D would fit with my factory front F/O.  The email I received back did not explanation anything nor was there an apology but told me to return the sight for a refund. It also clearly told me take my business elsewhere.  Unfortunately that is why I posted the question I did.  Thanks again for your response.

[tdogg]

The CGW rear sight is not a Dawson sight its a CGW design.  Here are the his prototype thread:

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=49027.0

I'd contact CGW again via phone and discuss the situation.  Sometimes email doesn't come across the way you intended.

Did David indicate what height front sight was required with the regulated 97B ez/d rear sight? or the standard EZ/D rear that you ordered?

I'm contemplating ordering a rear for my 97BD and already have a Dawson fiber optic front.

Cheers,
Toby

[Tok36]

The CGW rear sight is not a Dawson sight its a CGW design.  Here are the his prototype thread:

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=49027.0

I'd contact CGW again via phone and discuss the situation.  Sometimes email doesn't come across the way you intended.

Did David indicate what height front sight was required with the regulated 97B ez/d rear sight? or the standard EZ/D rear that you ordered?

I'm contemplating ordering a rear for my 97BD and already have a Dawson fiber optic front.

Cheers,
Toby

Toby -  I stand corrected, you are quite rite Sir. Thank you for the link.

I am not sure if this will help but i have a set of CGW 97 sights on hand at the moment. I metered the front sight with calipers and the height of the fiber optic housing, just the portion that sits above the slide is (.130) and from the bottem of the housing to the center of the fiber optic rod is (.075 +/- .002) . I am not sure these measurements will coincide with how they differentiate there sight heights.

cpanos - I second the the idea of giving him a call. I gather that he has been very bizzy lately. Hopefully you guys can get back on the rite foot.

chaps - Glad it helped.

[schmeky]

It also clearly told me take my business elsewhere.

I refuse to discuss private messages on a public forum, as the OP has chosen to do.  There are 2 sides to every story. 

[Grendel]

Tok36, funny you mentioned talking with CGW.  Everyone on the this forum has had great luck with CGW.  I have had three interactions with CGW and all but one of them did not end well.

Maybe you should try picking up a phone before griping here.

[cpanos]

Let me make this perfectly clear.  I had no intention when I started this thread to go into any detail about what happened with David.  I was just responding to a suggestion from a reply I received and was explaining that emailing or calling CGW was no longer an option for me.  I can accept the fact when someone no longer wants to do business with me  That's one of the great things about this country, personal choice.  I was and still am just trying to understand the current situation I am in with my 97 and move on.  I ordered a rear sight that I assumed to be correct, it was not and I still don't understand how I can rectify the issue.  As I stated earlier, I am new to CZs and the ONLY reason I posted this question on this forum was to try and get a more experienced member to clearly explain what I'm not understanding about 97 rear sight configurations.  I'm sorry if anyone took my earlier reply as griping.  That was never my intent.         

[Grendel]

Once again, I suggest that you pick up a phone and ASK. Complaining about an email response is a waste of time. You may have misunderstood, the other party may have misunderstood, who knows? If you don't want to clarify matters by the old school method of actual conversation then no one here is going to be able to help you for two excellent reasons:

1. You have three posts - two of which are gripes about a member who has a stellar reputation in the CZ world and on this forum in particular.

2. You seem unable to grasp the basics of communication necessary to unravel your perceived problem and participate effectively on this forum.

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