Which optic?

[Cheesesteak]

I?ve just ordered the low profile scope mount and rail from Czechpoint and was wondering what optic would be best. I?ve been looking at the Vortex Sparc II for $200. What do you suggest? Also how did you get the optic rail mounted?
http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-sparc-ii-red-dot-2-moa.html
https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/lpm-optic-mount-with-side-rail?l=4

[JDA70]

A lot of people go with one of the following.

Bushnell TRS-25
Primary Arms Micro Dot
Vortex Sparc

As for mounting the rail. You line it up so you can still punch out the pins for
disassemble. It's designed in such a way as there is really only one spot to place it.
other wise you won't be able to push out the pins in the receiver.
Then a Center punch is used to mark where you want to Drill and Tap the
holes for the screws in the receiver.

[RSR]

I like their low profile rail mount.  Do you have a Century or CSA rifle?  The Century will require that rail to be milled to fit. 

Ultimately the side rails for me are a non-starter b/c you lose the ambi safety capability which I really like...

As far as optics non-cowitness, at +$100 for a red dot, I'd go for the standard aimpoint pro (with low profile rings), which can be had in the $325-$350 range if you watch for sales.  The only benefit of the vortex is the 2x magnifier that screws on to the red dot.  Budget Bushnell and Primary Arms make some good red dots.

Magnified optics are a whole other discussion...

[Cheesesteak]

Thanks... I have the vz.58 so it should all fit without issue. Did you have a gunsmith drill and tap it or do it yourself? As for the optic, I think I'm going the cheaper route and get the sparc II. They seem pretty solid and have a lifetime warranty.

[RSR]

If you're dead set on the vortex amazon has them for $150...

[cz671]

Cheesesteak,  you can mount the rail yourself if you choose to, follow czechpoints instructions here
https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/receiver-side-rail?l=   Or have your local gunsmith do it, if you do just have him follow the instructions from czechpoint.

As for the sparc reddot, you can't beat it.  Comes with 3 different height mounts/2x magnifier/nv capable/small 2 moa dot.  Relocation of on/off switch is a plus.  I have the first gen for about 3 years now and still holding up, mounted on my rifles In 7.62x54r/x39/.308/5.56/.223/.22lr/3030.  Only thing I changed was the battery once.  Finding myself a vortex fan as I just picked up a vortex spitfire (great scope)with 5.56 reticle for my bullpup

Sparc 2 mounted on my pistol

[Cheesesteak]

Thanks.....I think I'm going the sparc 2 route. Sweet set up btw. I may end up having them do the rail mount. The local guys here are backed up with hunting season stuff. I'll post a pic.

[sofrosune]

Primary Arms will be coming out with a 7.62x39 version of their 4x ACSS prism sight in a month or two.  I think that's what I'm waiting for.

[RSR]

I really wanted/have been waiting for Primary Arms to re-release their 7.62x39/300 BLK option of this scope, but only the 5.56 option is still on their website, so possibly it's discontinued: https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_1_6X_Scope_with_Patented_ACSS_Reticle_p/paps1-6x.htm

FWIW, those Primary Arms Prism scopes (like Vortex Spitfire and the Burris Prism) are all essentially the same technology used by the acog minus the fiber optic daytime illuminator...

[sofrosune]

The one I'm talking about is the 7.62x39 version of this optic... https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_4X_Compact_Prism_Scope_p/pac4x.htm  Should be out in a month or so from what I've read and appears to be great value for the money based on the reviews for the .223/5.45x39 version.

[RSR]

Yep -- that's the one. 

Can you point us to the 7.62x39 intelligence? 

This one should fit the VZ58 better than the longer 1-6x one that I've been waiting for my RPK...

[sofrosune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNBuxqk3ng
Primary Arms mentions future availability in the comments section.

[RSR]

Awesome!  Thanks much.

[cciman]

I did not like the sparQ-- the controls were too easy to turn on and the button panel stick out and obscures your L eye vision if you are R eye shooter (for both eyes open shooting), and the threads on the covers were so fine, that the covers are hard to get on/off.

The Bushnell TR25 is my choice for a cheap optic, with better controls (single turret rather than buttons), sits low without need for a riser.

Anything else like an AR style RDS (Eotech Aimpoint) will sit too high if you use the original stock, you'll have to see if you can get a good cheek weld.

[Cheesesteak]

Got the sparc 2 and it's a neat little package. My rifle is off at Czechpoint being drilled and tapped so no review of the entire set up yet. I've discovered that I have astigmatism and the red dot is a little blurry so this whole endeavor may be a waste of time if it ends up bothering me. Never knew I had it or even heard about this effect...bummer.