P-01 and NSN - Is it back?

[SKILCZ]

I know once P-01 got NATO approval, the NSN was on the slides.  Then they changed some parts (presumably improving them) and started making pistols w/o NSN on slide.  Did the P-01 ever get back to having new production pistols having the NSN on the slide?  What parts were changed?  Why?  Were there failures with original NSN P-01s?

[Canuck44]

The NSN number is an inventory number for NATO, nothing more...nothing.  Shovels and flashlights used by NATO members have the same numbers.

I assume CZ USA puts the numbers on the gun for marketing purposes. 

Incidentally NATO members test their equipment "NATO" does not.

Take Care

Bob

[SKILCZ]

Thanks.  I do realize that it's just a mark of NATO approval.  However, that mark was removed at some point.  I'm just wondering if it's back and why it was removed.  I was under the impression that the slide stop and possibly a few other parts were the reason for NSN removal.  I'm just wondering if it's back now and what specifically was the issue with the slide stop, etc.

[Bossgobbler]

From what I have read it was a spring that was changed.  No reason was given for the change or what spring was changed.  The NSN # can not go back on until it goes though the complete testing again.  Do to cost & time it takes, it may not be retested.

[Canuck44]

It likely is just a case of someone forgetting to run the guns through the engraving machine.  The number is applied by CZ USA.  It seems to be a decent marketing move since so many feel it means something more than an inventory number.   NATO members hardly would need NATO approval to change springs in this or any other gun.

IIRC it was the Czech National Police who did the testing not NATO, on the gun and their tests were very, very strict.   The gun is an amazing piece of hardware.

Bob

[SKILCZ]

I don't care about the NSN, per se, or whether it's on the gun.  I just wanted to know if there was a known issue with any part of the NSN P-01s.  I also wanted to have a rough way of dating the pistol based on the presence or absence of the NSN.   

Thanks for all replies.

[Bossgobbler]

every CZ has a date on it.  in pic blow see the (14) in front of the chamber, that is the build year
 
 

[Stuart]

There are current 2014 model P01 with NSN#.


As said, the NSN number is just an inventory #. One of the NATO requirements is part interchangeability. When CZ produced the version with the different slide stop spring, it could not have the NSN #.
So you will see the P01 in the US with the NSN#, without it- both rollmarked as P01 and then the version labeled as Compact D.

[jdgray]

every CZ has a date on it.  in pic blow see the (14) in front of the chamber, that is the build year
 
 

What are those grips?

[Tok36]

I believe they are hand stippled plastic CZ grips.

[Genin]

^^^^Correct. I stippled my factory CZ Compact Plastic Grips. I prefer stippled grips. I do it on my knives, guns, etc. Nothing compares to that feel in hand when you want a solid purchase on the item you're holding. I just did some to my BK16 recently too since the stock grivory grips are a bit slick. World of difference!

[kobus]

my apologies to the OP for going off topic.

can Genin and/or jdgray (or anyone else) give a brief description of how to do that stipling please.

[Genin]

kobus,

Get a soldering iron (mine is an $8 one from Walmart)

Use a fine tip

Sand down the grips so that the polymids are almost flat

Taking your time do quick presses with the soldering iron into the polymer (just till you see the puff of smoke)

Make sure every dot touches the dot next to it so you ensure you hit the entire area

Every once in a while start stippling from another area and let the groups meet up (will give it a more natural look)

After you are done, use 1500 grit sandpaper to hit off any high or loose pieces of plastic

BAM DONE!

youtube has a bunch of wonderful videos as well, but that's how I do it!

[deleteyourselph]

Mine was made in August of this year and it has the NSN on it.  Not sure if the spring upgrade finally made it through the NATO inspection, or CZ really did botch an entire batch and have things back on track now.

[Canuck44]

I can see the spring, if it is materially different in design having a NATO number but I have a hard time believing NATO cancelled the NATO inventory number for the pistol causing CZ USA to have to stop putting it on the gun.  My nonsense meter is way off the chart.  CZ UB doesn't put the number on the guns, only CZ USA does.  I assume to convince American handgunners the number actually means something in terms of how the gun is made, which it doesn't.  The Beretta pistol the US Army uses has the inventory number so does a hammer.

The Czech Republic is part of NATO now and they use the gun, hence it gets a NATO inventory number.

The next thing we will hear is their is something special about CZ barrels that don't come with a black exterior finish.

Take Care

Bob