What Would You Like To See From Manticore Arms

[machinegunnertim]

Any updates?

[vblue42]

Sven has stated there likely won't be any product till sometime in 2015.

[MariusVZ]

I like option 1, except one that works with an affordable reflex sight (Burris Fastfire, Redfield Accelerator, etc.)  Maybe this can be achieved with a pic rail.  Maybe it will need a proprietary mount to match the base of each optic.  Maybe you could make the top of the handguard flat with dowel pin holes, dowel pins, and screw holes in the guard, so that it would universally work with a handful of reflex sights.

OK, been looking at a few things and needs some feedback.  It looks like we can go one of two ways on a top cover for a handguard:

1.  Superlow picatinny gas tube that allows you to co-witness an Aimpoint Micro and similar sized optics.

2.  A higher top rail that is continuous from the front of the gas tube to right before the rear dust cover (i.e. would cantilever back over the open bolt area).  There would be a cutout in the top rail so you could leave your rear iron sight installed, and you could probably use the irons without an optic mounted, but the irons would not be visible if an optic was attached to the rail.  Of course a Quick Detach optics mount for your optic would solve that issue.

Let me know which way you would prefer.

[cciman]

Shell deflector and charge handle for the Tavor, similar to the ones you make for the Aug. 

[JAPartridge]

Hey now, don't be distracting Sven from our wonderful vz.58 with your Tavor silliness!

[Enthusiasm]

A bolt release would be awesome

I would prefer a quality check riser over an overmold bolt on for the stock

[dernt]

I'm surprised that ambi-safety didn't get more traction.  The one that is out there doesn't work on any three of my rifles (VZ2008, VZ58 rifle, VZ58 pistol) due to the US FCG.  Also some option for a left hand charging handle.  Even if it's just a handle that needs to be drilled and tapped.  I haven't exhaustively looked for a suitable knob for left charging, but I haven't stumbled across anything either.

[RSR]

I'm surprised that ambi-safety didn't get more traction.  The one that is out there doesn't work on any three of my rifles (VZ2008, VZ58 rifle, VZ58 pistol) due to the US FCG.  Also some option for a left hand charging handle.  Even if it's just a handle that needs to be drilled and tapped.  I haven't exhaustively looked for a suitable knob for left charging, but I haven't stumbled across anything either.

Only one Czech manufacturer that does drilled and bolt carriers are now barred from export except w/ special import/export permits due to some new EU rule...  You can see most of the parts that we can no longer order by comparing product availability on VZ58rifle.com's Czech and US language sites.  It's still possible to get them, just much more of a hassle as some bureaucrat has to approve.

[Manticore_Arms]

Sven has stated there likely won't be any product till sometime in 2015.

Correct, right now we are running full out and have some contracts we are fulfilling.  Once we get caught up a bit I will focus more on the VZ58 products.

I have a few sketches for concepts, but nothing I want to show yet.

[JAPartridge]

Manticore_Arms, I'm assuming this is Sven, but I know how that goes... you should let Tim know that you are looking into goodies for the vz.58... I don't think he ever sold his off, and you know how much MAC loves to play with new toys!  Also maybe look into working with Horse from RS Products on some kind of a bolt on shell deflector... His side rail is, IMO, the best there is for the VZ.

[Manticore_Arms]

Manticore_Arms, I'm assuming this is Sven, but I know how that goes... you should let Tim know that you are looking into goodies for the vz.58... I don't think he ever sold his off, and you know how much MAC loves to play with new toys!  Also maybe look into working with Horse from RS Products on some kind of a bolt on shell deflector... His side rail is, IMO, the best there is for the VZ.

I know both Tim and Josh very well.

Once I get some prototypes worked out I will certainly be showing them to Tim for some feedback, and a video review once we have real parts ready. 

[vblue42]

I was going to suggest a video by Tim as well. His video of the VZ is why I own one.

[RSR]

I'm surprised that ambi-safety didn't get more traction.  The one that is out there doesn't work on any three of my rifles (VZ2008, VZ58 rifle, VZ58 pistol) due to the US FCG.  Also some option for a left hand charging handle.  Even if it's just a handle that needs to be drilled and tapped.  I haven't exhaustively looked for a suitable knob for left charging, but I haven't stumbled across anything either.

Agreed, but then I suppose not all civilians have the same accountability/strictness with safeties as do current and former military...

[Cheapo]

I'm surprised that ambi-safety didn't get more traction.  The one that is out there doesn't work on any three of my rifles (VZ2008, VZ58 rifle, VZ58 pistol) due to the US FCG.  Also some option for a left hand charging handle.  Even if it's just a handle that needs to be drilled and tapped.  I haven't exhaustively looked for a suitable knob for left charging, but I haven't stumbled across anything either.

Agreed, but then I suppose not all civilians have the same accountability/strictness with safeties as do current and former military...

I never use the safeties, on any of my firearms. Safe is mag out, action open. Otherwise if has a round chambered I'm seconds within firing it or its a pistol and is in a holster with the trigger guard covered. So I never use the safety on my VZ. Thats just me I guess.

[RSR]

I never use the safeties, on any of my firearms. Safe is mag out, action open. Otherwise if has a round chambered I'm seconds within firing it or its a pistol and is in a holster with the trigger guard covered. So I never use the safety on my VZ. Thats just me I guess.

Yep, civilian and military safety needs are very different.  Most civilians shoot in scenarios where safeties are less essential.  A lot of military doctrine, even in special forces, is that weapon should be on safe and finger off trigger until the moment you're ready/need to engage... 

The ambi safety allows for this type of manipulation to be a little easier.  Though the safety location isn't perfect it is serviceable.  And rotating it with your thumb rather than trigger finger should reduce time to firing for most individuals.
VZ2008s with their taller receiver ledge do require removing some of that ledge material around the lower half of the receiver hole which isn't ideal...  Not sure how to configure otherwise...