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Offline RSR

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NEA handguards back in stock
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:09:57 PM »
NEA handguards back in stock

http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=14_288_290

I just added 2-2" rails, 1-4" rail, and the handguard set to my cart.  Total is $317.59 CAD delivered, ~$286 USD.

My initial evaluation of the NEA and bonesteel is that I prefer the NEA.  But I haven't shot w/ the bonesteel handguard I've just received yet.  (Plan to do a writeup at some point.)

And even if I prefer the NEA, I'm uncertain if I prefer them $100 more...

Do I wish Troy still made their set of upper and lower handguards and 2-2" rails for sub $200, and they're 922r too!  (Still think Manticore should look into acquiring the license to produce these, with perhaps two upper options, one standard and one in line w/ their top cover rail mount...)
« Last Edit: December 22, 2014, 02:15:27 PM by RSR »

Offline jb2sea

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 04:29:57 PM »
Geez... at these prices I think I really like that drilled wooden one!!  You could paint it black and then sort of give it a stippled look.  May actually turn out to look nice.

I actually really like the Mako handguard myself.  But I've heard the top rail, since it's made of plastic, doesn't hold zero very well.  Meaning you need a scope mount for the receiver cover area.  And those are pricey too.

I'm not sure how much sense it makes to spend more on the accessories than you spent on the gun.

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 04:58:43 PM »
Some have done mako polymer lowers plus NEA uppers.

For a red dot, the Mako is fine I'd imagine...  But it doesn't cowitness w/ Irons if that's something you desire.

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 05:58:07 PM »
Sent them an email for the upper handguard. Couldn't figure out how to sign up. Its probably obvious, but hopefully they will contact me.
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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 07:10:41 PM »
These certainly seem expensive, especially if you paid 400 bucks for the rifle but I guess you get what you pay for.
For just the upper handguard plus shipping ($18.96) I get $93.75 USD (edit - fixed mistake here)
For the upper and lower set plus the 4" and one 2" rail plus shipping I get $244.04 USD

The Bonesteel aren't that much cheaper for just the upper but for the set I guess how much cheaper Bonesteel is depends on how many rails you'd need on the NEA lower. The big question is how long would you need to wait for them, if you can get them at all.
For the upper alone it's $102.95 shipped
For the upper and lower set it's $172.95 shipped.

Personally, I prefer the NEA lower design but only because I feel it follows the original lines more. The Bonesteel lowers change the look of the gun too much for my taste.
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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 10:19:28 PM »
Sent them an email for the upper handguard. Couldn't figure out how to sign up. Its probably obvious, but hopefully they will contact me.

You just place an order.  Click on each item.  And then you'll see add to cart.  Then checkout per usual. 

Use capitol one or some other no fee travel card to save yourself the foreign transaction fees though...

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 10:23:02 PM »
These certainly seem expensive, especially if you paid 400 bucks for the rifle but I guess you get what you pay for.
For just the upper handguard plus the 4" rail, plus shipping ($18.80) I get $121.81 USD
For the upper and lower set plus the 4" and one 2" rail plus shipping I get $244.04 USD

The Bonesteel aren't that much cheaper for just the upper but for the set I guess how much cheaper Bonesteel is depends on how many rails you'd need on the NEA lower. The big question is how long would you need to wait for them, if you can get them at all.
For the upper alone it's $102.95 shipped
For the upper and lower set it's $172.95 shipped.

Personally, I prefer the NEA lower design but only because I feel it follows the original lines more. The Bonesteel lowers change the look of the gun too much for my taste.

Bottom, only the small rail will fit.  And the small rail is sufficient to mount an AFG or other grip. 

Support hand side, I like the long rail for heat deflection as well as a continuous surface for my hand being mounted against. 

Opposite side, I have a small rail for flashlight mount or other accessory if needed.  Better to have and not need, than not have and need...

Also, NEA does sit slightly higher than bonesteel.  But it is a much more substantial rail in pretty much every respect.  And its design is also such that it prevents things from falling into the handguard, unlike Bonesteel.  Whether NEA is "overbuilt" or that extra bulk is critical is quite fairly up for discussion.  But that's my primary takeaway.

Lowers Bonesteel is better ventilated and has much more rail space -- for NEA, more rails means less ventilation.  Also, Bonesteel, you don't have to worry about rails working themselves loose.

But, for Bonesteel in hand, the lower is almost too wide.  Wider than AR quad rails.  And I haven't mounted it yet to try, but I also don't think the bonesteel will be friendly to the gogun gas pedal, which it and the AFG make a pretty much perfect forehand grip w/ my Troy/NEA, and do a very good job of minimizing heat on the support hand.  Without the Gas pedal on bonesteel, support hand thumb ends up on top rail right next to where the pistol in exhausting the gas (point of greatest heat).  Not ideal.
My Daniels Defense Omega rail: 1.9", 48.3mm.
Bonesteel: 2.15", 54.5mm.

In comparison my Midwest Industries Galil Quad Rail is 2.25"/57.3mm, but feels much narrower -- I think it has to be something to do with the wide rail sitting so low to the palm of the hand, but not certain... 
**PAUSE**
So ran through these again.  Bonesteel the meat of thumb ends up atop the side rail.  NEA is about 2/3 on and 1/3 off the rail and the Midwest and Daniels both run palm entirely on the rail.  That's the hangup with bonesteel.  I can rotate my palm more under the barrel , but then I'm not using the same grip on the afg as I"m used too...  Not sure if I'm describing correctly, but the meat of the thumb, portion of palm connected to thumb is what I'm describing...
Bottom line, bonesteel is high enough that my thumb sits atop the side rail and is the only quad rail I have where a c-clamp grip would be described as natural.  It'd be hot, but natural...  Without an AFG that grip would probably be worse... 

Looks like I've gone and convinced myself to spend more $ on upgrading my 2nd tacticool VZ2008 to an NEA fore-end at some  point...
« Last Edit: December 22, 2014, 11:16:31 PM by RSR »

Offline muggia59

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 05:13:12 PM »
Thanks for the heads up RSR. Placed my order this morning around 4am. 20$ shipping, but this is going to finally allow cowitness with a red dot. Now I have to buy another red dot.
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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 10:27:35 PM »
If all I want to do is swap the upper handguard to put a reddot on it do I have to buy anything besides the upper?

http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=942

I have a Czechpoint VZ with the polymer handguards if that makes a difference.

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 12:10:39 AM »
All you need is the upper. I've seen the CSA polymer lower and the NEA upper on a few vz's.

I have the NEA/Troy set and I really like it. Glad these are available again.

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2014, 09:40:34 AM »
bota, can you post a picture?

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2014, 02:56:17 PM »
Well just went ahead and ordered the upper handguard.  I figured I needed an optic to go along with that as the only thing I have is a Vortex Sparc 2 on my braced M92 Pap pistol so...also ordered an Aimpoint Pro. 

Merry Christmas to myself I guess :-\

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2014, 06:22:18 PM »
What kind of range can I expect out of these VZ2008's?  As in, at what distance can an average shooter consistently hit a pie plate?  I'm thinking these guns are much more suitable to a 1-4x or 1-6x scope than a red dot.  But since I don't have mine in hand yet, maybe I'm hoping for more than they can deliver.   

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 08:27:31 PM »
8"steel plate can be hit every time at 200 yards with a TRS25 red dot. I hit full size silhouettes at 325 and decent shooters have done the same with my rifle. That being said, it does come down to the shooters skill. I'd rather have 6 guys with skills and lever action 3030's than 60 average guys with AR's.

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Re: NEA handguards back in stock
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2014, 08:30:06 PM »
What kind of range can I expect out of these VZ2008's?  As in, at what distance can an average shooter consistently hit a pie plate?  I'm thinking these guns are much more suitable to a 1-4x or 1-6x scope than a red dot.  But since I don't have mine in hand yet, maybe I'm hoping for more than they can deliver.

For me, a pie plate at 100 yards is very doable with iron sights.  I had to switch from using a center-of-mass sight picture to a six-o'clock-hold due to the front sight being so fat and obscuring that sized target at that distance.  With the trajectory of 7.62x39, it's possible to sight the rifle in so that it's relatively accurate with both center-of-mass-hold for quick shots under 50 yards as well as more careful shooting with six-o'clock-hold at 100 yards.  Anything past that requires moving the rear sight ladder.